No, that not what I said, or implied. That is dishonest of you. That Christians cannot decide between themselves what the teaching of the Bible means does not mean that I think that words have no fixed meaning.
No. That is dishonest of you.
I posted quotes from the Bible and your response included "
I have pointed out that what the words mean to you are not what the words mean to other Christians "
So no shared language Temujin, or is that just no shared language where other people disagree with your worldview?
For example, "the narrow gate", how do the words 'narrow' and 'gate' have different meanings to different Christians? They don't.
One of the reasons it is not important to me, is that other people, who also call themselves Christian use what they also claim are the words of Jesus to say something completely opposite to what you say.
So what do the words say and mean Temujin? So when presented with the words in the Biblical text you simply say other people don't agree. Well Temujin, other people dont agree with you.
Arguing a point based on "this is what Jesus says" is completely worthless,
Its invaluable when looking at what is recorded as Jesus saying. That is is worthless to you doesn't mean it is worthless, it just means it is worthless to you.
since Jesus apparently said a lot of things that are interpreted in different ways.
Apparently? so you aren't sure then. So no examples. Your opinion is worthless unless you have attempt to demonstrate it.
What on earth possessed you to make such a ridiculous statement. Nowhere have I claimed that and every time I have posted what Jesus said from the Bible it tells us its what Jesus said and not what I said.
I am afraid that when you claim to speak with the voice of Jesus,
I dont think I have ever claimed that. I have posted what Jesus said, but I haven't specifically claimed to be speaking with His voice. Give us an example. But dont be afraid, "
There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love." 1 John
Or to be more precise, you dont believe Jesus
That is your position. I am quite content to accept the meaning of words as defined by a dictionary.
But not if they dont agree with what some Christians think. I see.
You have asked me to give my understanding of a selection of words from the Bible.
So you think that is unreasonable?
You didn't bother to show that these words are actually in the Bible, that they are an accurate translation from the original author or that they were taken in context.
Well I did cite where they are from in the Bible, and they have been translated by expert linguists and I can give you the context but your responses were that you arent interested. Can we revisit them then?
Neither did you refute that other words taken from the Bible cast doubt or directly contradict the words you have chosen.
There aren't any concerning the ones I quoted. For example "“
Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it."
Nowhere does the NT say the gate is wide and the road broad. So for example He also says "4
Or those eighteen who died when the tower in Siloam fell on them—do you think they were more guilty than all the others living in Jerusalem? 5 I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish.” - Luke 13
Nor were you able to deny or explain that eminent Christians, with a rather higher trust profile than yourself, do not agree with the meanings that you ascribe to the Bible.
Do you mean, the Pope the ABC and Lord Steele that you cited? We saw that they essentially did. So not sure where you are with that.
The Bible is not a subject I am interested. If you want to use the disputed meaning
But you are interested enough to suggest that there are different meanings, but not interested enough to be able to support that claim.