But you did not answer my simple question, about Romans 4, did you? WHAT did Paul ACTUALLY SAY was credited to us as righteousness? IN Romans 4:5?--"5However, to the one who does not work but trusts God who justifies the ungodly, their faith is credited as righteousness."
Now, what did Paul ACTUALLY WRITE HERE IN VS. 5 is credited to us as righteousness? Care to give me the correct answer? Why are you so afraid to?
You have the answer posted above--and I have not argued that point. It states "faith".
My question was--which you have not touched--was this Abraham's faith?
Genesis 26:4-5--King James Version
4 And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed;
5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.
Since God connected Abraham's obedience to His commandments with His grace of all nations being blessed--how are you separating out faith and Abraham's obedience?
Bonnie--I believe keeping the commandments is integral to faith in Christ--so what is your point?
And until you can show keeping the commandments isn't integral to faith--then your point is moot.
Your claim reminds me of this exchange:
John: Ted, my house is for sale.
Ted: Yeah--how much?
John: 100K, but it needs a new roof.
Ted: Hey, wait a minute--you said house--you didn't say anything about a roof!