Many unwittingly lie about Romans 7

[JonHawk]

Oh Ok' so Gods Spirit didnt come to Mary and she wasn't Jesus mother, then who was ? LOL.

That is a whole new twist on Mother Mary for sure -- LOL.

Why would anyone expect a gnostic to know that Mary is common name.

The angel greeted Mary and said, “You are truly blessed!...
You will conceive and give birth to a son, and you are to call him Jesus. 32 He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David, 33 and he will reign over Jacob’s descendants forever; his kingdom will never end.” Luke 1

You tell me, you are the one with the false accusations LOL.

That wasn't an accusation, simply stating the fact.

So if God gave them the same gift He gave us who believed in the Lord Jesus Christ, who was I to think that I could stand in God’s way? Acts 11:17

So is everyone until they meet the Christ as Jesus did in Matt 3:16 to be anointed of God, then we become like Him instead.

When you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, having believed in Christ, you were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, Eph 1:13

that is why I follow the ways of Jesus and not another such as Paul. For me Jesus has the better way than the sinner does.

In the same way, the gospel is bearing fruit and growing throughout the whole world—even as it has done among yourselves ever since you heard and understood the truth of God’s grace. Col 1:6

 

[Gary Mac]

Why would anyone expect a gnostic to know that Mary is common name.

Well if Jesus mother was named Mary I have to go with that. If you have another name for her then spelt out, Im curious who you think Jesus mother was?

The angel greeted Mary and said, “You are truly blessed!...

God Himself came to Mary, He comes to us all who will receieve Him. Jesus received what Mary did in Matt 3:16, you just dont know how God comes to people for sure for you make all kinds of storied to dance around that truth.

You will conceive and give birth to a son, and you are to call him Jesus. 32 He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David, 33 and he will reign over Jacob’s descendants forever; his kingdom will never end.” Luke 1

Everyone who has received from God His Spirit are His bride, giving birth to His seed, Spirit, He puts in man is very painful in child birth for the religious minds to give up that right to themselves in self beliefs for your gods and give birth to the Christ withihin just as Mary did, Adam did, Abraham did, Moses did, Jesus did in Matt 3:16, 120 did in an upper room and so didI the very same. You are supposed to receieve from God His seed, Spirit, as well as all of these did. But you just refuse Him to do so is all,.

You are still a virgin to His seed that is very clear.

That wasn't an accusation, simply stating the fact.

as you know them and Paul knows them but do not have the facts in you that Jesus presented for sure. which you mock him calling him gnostic.

So if God gave them the same gift He gave us who believed in the Lord Jesus Christ, who was I to think that I could stand in God’s way? Acts 11:17

Paul was very clear that sin stood in the way between him and God.

When you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, having believed in Christ, you were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, Eph 1:13

Most believe in Christ but never become like Him as God demands of you if you are to be of Christ yourself, which is to be anointed of God as Jesus was Gods anointed to.

In the same way, the gospel is bearing fruit and growing throughout the whole world—even as it has done among yourselves ever since you heard and understood the truth of God’s grace. Col 1:6

You cant quote the ways of Jesus in perfection that you are supposed to be and walk as He walks in His same light as Jesus did at all, and you dont even understand why that you cant!

 

[JonHawk]

Everyone who has received from God His Spirit are His bride, giving birth to His seed, Spirit, He puts in man is very painful in child birth for the religious minds...
You cant quote the ways of Jesus in perfection...

Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her 26 to make her holy, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word, 27 and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless. Eph 5

You are still a virgin ...

Other than the time my wife had her way with me.

 

[SeventhDay]

Romans 7



Many use chapter 7 in Romans to state the Law of God is done away with. And to prove that we will always sin because we can’t help ourselves. Both these statements are a lie. Please follow along.



Paul says in chapter 7 verse 7 that he would not have known sin if it were not for the law. Then in verse 8 it states that this sin, not the commandment or law. But this sin that he would not have known if it were not for the law, used the law as a starting point and produced in him all many of covetousness. Because without the law he did not know sin. Therefore sin was dead. But when the commandment came that showed him his sin. Sin became alive and he died. Then in verse 10 he states the commandment that was meant to be for life he found it to be unto death. Why? Because it showed him that he was sinning according to the context. Then in verse 11 it says that sin that deceived him and through the commandment that showed him what sin is he was slain. Therefore the Law is Holy just and good. Then so as we do not get confused he asks a question. He asked, “ was that which is good, the commandment making death unto him? He says no, let it never be. But sin showing itself to be sin by the death that it is working in Me through that which is good, the commandment might become extremely sinful.



So you see sin is the issue not the law. However All the law does is it shows us the wrong we do. But once we done wrong, the wrong keeps working more wrong in us even though we know the law. Knowing the law does not help us. Because Even if we do good evil is present with us. And the evil we would not that we do. So then it is no longer we that do it but that sin that is in us. I find that this issue is also a law. And this other law that brings death wars against the Law of God in which we serve with our mind.



So Who shall deliver us from this body of death. Thank you God for Jesus Because I can’t help myself even though I serve God through the law with my mind my flesh still serves sin. Thank you God because there is now no condemnation to us who are in Christ Jesus. For the Law of the Spirit of life that is in Christ Jesus has set us free from the law of sin, the evil that we would not but do, and the death in which it causes. For God sent His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and condemned sin in the flesh that the righteousness of the law be fulfilled in us who walk after the Spirit of life that is in Christ Jesus not after the flesh that sin is condemned in.

It is the law of sin and death that the carnal mind is under but the spiritual mind is under the law of Spirit and life. How ever we are not justified by keeping the law by by the righteousness of Christ and in him we have he law written in our minds and engraved upon our heat. God did not do away with the Law but in Christ we uphold it. God bless you.

 

[JonHawk]

It is the law of sin and death that the carnal mind is under but the spiritual mind is under the law of Spirit and life. How ever we are not justified by keeping the law by by the righteousness of Christ and in him we have he law written in our minds and engraved upon our heat. God did not do away with the Law but in Christ we uphold it. God bless you.

Have you then set aside the notion of being refined in hell?

Gnostics to the left, universalists to the right, here I am stuck in the middle with you.

 

[SeventhDay]

Have you then set aside the notion of being refined in hell?

Gnostics to the left, universalists to the right, here I am stuck in the middle with you.

Judgement begins at the house of God and God's people are going through refinement right now!

Heb 12:23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,

Heb 12:24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.

Heb 12:25 See that ye refuse not him that speaketh. For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven:

Heb 12:26 Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying, Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven.

Heb 12:27 And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that are made, that those things which cannot be shaken may remain.

Heb 12:28 Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:

Heb 12:29 For our God is a consuming fire.

God bless you!

 

[SeventhDay]

Have you then set aside the notion of being refined in hell?

Gnostics to the left, universalists to the right, here I am stuck in the middle with you.

Keep moving to the right! God bless you.

 

[JonHawk]

Keep moving to the right! God bless you.

Likewise. Pardon our iniquity and our sin, and accept us as your own people. Ex 34:9

 

[SeventhDay]

Likewise. Pardon our iniquity and our sin, and accept us as your own people. Ex 34:9

Yes, and what fire God's people go through so that they reckon the old man dead with Christ in his death and identify with the Christ in them and walk in the Spirit as new spiritual creations.

 

[JonHawk]

Yes, and what fire God's people go through so that they reckon the old man dead with Christ in his death and identify with the Christ in them and walk in the Spirit as new spiritual creations.

Attaboy.
In the place where it was said to them, ‘You are not my people,’ they will be called ‘children of the living God.’ Hosea 1:10

 

[Gary Mac]

Have you then set aside the notion of being refined in hell?

Gnostics to the left, universalists to the right, here I am stuck in the middle with you.

You are stuck in spiritual retirement for sure.

 

[Gary Mac]

Attaboy.
In the place where it was said to them, ‘You are not my people,’ they will be called ‘children of the living God.’ Hosea 1:10

Just as Jesus was called His child, His son, so am I by the same Father as Jesus had who God calls us His sons. We are His children. You are supposed to be as well.

 

[Gary Mac]

Keep moving to the right! God bless you.

He should move to the left for gnosticism is the belief that Gods Spirit resides in man, sound familiar, see Luke 17:20-21. And Matt 3:16, how Gods Spirit in man works, gnosis.

Gnosticism is the belief that human beings contain colds Spirit in man,the highest good or a divine spark within themselves, which has fallen from the immaterial world into the bodies of humans. All physical matter is subject to decay, rotting, and death.

Gnostics are like Jesus who Jesus knew that Gods Spirit is in man, see Matt 3:16. These religious minds do not see it that way, they see flesh as a god instead who do not believe that Gods Spirit resides in man. They dont even believer Matt 3:16 where God came to Jesus by His Spirit and opens up who He is and all of His heaven in Jesus, and does the very same in us all who will receive the same from Him.

 

[JonHawk]

He should move to the left for gnosticism is the belief that Gods Spirit resides in man, sound familiar, see Luke 17:20-21. And Matt 3:16, how Gods Spirit in man works, gnosis.

God came to Jesus by His Spirit and opens up who He is and all of His heaven in Jesus, and does the very same in us all who will receive the same from Him.

The One He sent is Jesus. Because you are his sons, God sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts;
But every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.
You, beloved children, are from God and have overcome them, because the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world. 1 John 4:3-5

 

[Gary Mac]

The One He sent is Jesus. Because you are his sons, God sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts;

Yes just as He sent Adam, Abraham, Moses, 120, Jesus and us all who has received the same from Him as these did. You should receive from God yourself to know these and Jesus and God, you cant know Him at all without the same in you.

But every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.

Yes and religious minds has made Jesus a god instead of the One Jesus obeyed and prayed to and said sent him to show you the ways of the father to be like Him as Jesus was like Him. And if you are not like Him then you are antichrist for sure.

You, beloved children, are from God and have overcome them, because the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world. 1 John 4:3-5

That is what I keep telling you. But because you are of this world and the sinner, you dont know what it is to be greater then this world. For to you this world of flesh is your god, for you worship a man as a god instead of the One of Spirit who is not of this world.

 

[JonHawk]

The One He sent is Jesus. Because you are his sons, God sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts;
But every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.
You, beloved children, are from God and have overcome them, because the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world. 1 John 4:3-5

That is what I keep telling you. But because you are of this world and the sinner, you dont know what it is to be greater then this world.

I have chosen you out of the world, and you don’t belong to the world. John 15:19

For to you this world of flesh is your god, for you worship a man as a god instead of the One of Spirit who is not of this world.

For whatever is born of God overcomes the world. And this is the victory that has overcome the world—our faith in Jesus is the Son of God...
This is He who came by water and blood—Jesus Christ; not only by water, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit who bears witness, because the Spirit is truth. 1 John 5:4-6

 

[Gary Mac]

The One He sent is Jesus. Because you are his sons, God sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts;
But every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.
You, beloved children, are from God and have overcome them, because the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world. 1 John 4:3-5

I have chosen you out of the world, and you don’t belong to the world. John 15:19

For whatever is born of God overcomes the world. And this is the victory that has overcome the world—our faith in Jesus is the Son of God...
This is He who came by water and blood—Jesus Christ; not only by water, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit who bears witness, because the Spirit is truth. 1 John 5:4-6

 

[Gary Mac]

The One He sent is Jesus. Because you are his sons, God sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts;
But every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.
You, beloved children, are from God and have overcome them, because the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world. 1 John 4:3-5

I have chosen you out of the world, and you don’t belong to the world. John 15:19

For whatever is born of God overcomes the world. And this is the victory that has overcome the world—our faith in Jesus is the Son of God...
This is He who came by water and blood—Jesus Christ; not only by water, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit who bears witness, because the Spirit is truth. 1 John 5:4-6

Complications in understanding is settled when you receive from God Himself as Jesus did in Matt 3:16. God opened up to Jesus his errors and opened to him all of His ways and His heaven. he does the very same in us all who will obey and receieve Him as Jesus did, as Adam did, as Abraham, Moses 120, Mary and Jesus did, and I did.

you are supposed to receive Him the same as all of us did.

 

[JonHawk]

JonHawk said:
But every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.
You, beloved children, are from God and have overcome them, because the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world. 1 John 4:3-5

Complications in understanding is settled when you receive from God Himself as Jesus did in Matt 3:16. God opened up to Jesus his errors ...

Did the spirit you encountered coiled up in the tree of knowledge subtly avoid telling you that Jesus knew no sin?

You are stuck in spiritual retirement for sure.

No one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.
“Come to me and you will find rest for your souls." Matt 11:27-29

 

[Gary Mac]

JonHawk said:
But every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.

The spirit of antichrist doesnt acknowledge that Jesus is NOT from God? Does that mean that the antichrist acknowledge Jesus is not from God but is a god himself?

You, beloved children, are from God and have overcome them, because the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world. 1 John 4:3-5

Yes perfect even as my Father unshaven is perfect, holy, pure, and without sin for He took away my sin. Tat is what He does.

Did the spirit you encountered coiled up in the tree of knowledge subtly avoid telling you that Jesus knew no sin?

Nope, the same knowledge Jesus received in Matt 3:16 is the same knowledge Adam received in Eden, Abraham receieve on a mountain, Moses received on a mountain, 120 received in an upper room, and so did I.

You sure kick hard against having His same knowledge that He gives to all who will receive Him as these did.

No one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.

And it is very obvious that you do not know the Father of it for you try and adopt your gods into your world instead of being like Jesus was in that One God.

“Come to me and you will find rest for your souls." Matt 11:27-29

Come to Him as Jesus did and you will be exactly like Him as Jesus was. Jesus came to Him in Matt 3:16, but you won't will you?