Mariology

Buzzard

Active member
Maxtar said:
There you go, just had to get that in there, didn't you?

There was but one Christian Church and it consisted of all the Christians then in this world. The head Bishop was in Rome and all looked to the Chair of Peter for guidance as the early Bishops tell us whose writings still exist today to verify this fact. I believe the term "Roman" that is used to describe the Church was added as a pejorative sometime in the middle Ages.

No there wasn't as you see it. Your institution started in Rome. Before then they were individual groups, who were one because they were true believers, they did not need your false popes. I had to mention the truth about your institution, it is a fact that even some of your popes have now acknowledge. Those actions show it is not the one true church. The evidence is there throughout history for all to see.

balshan;
The Church of the Religion of the Romans;
started much earlier way back, just after the Flood

its as Newman says of the Roman Church
"she begin in Chaldea; .............
ect. ect. ect"
and Scripture confirms it to be so

Is. 47:1
Come down, and sit in the dust, O virgin daughter of Babylon,
sit on the ground: there is no throne,
O daughter of the Chaldeans:
for thou shalt no more be called tender and delicate
.

Now read Revelation of the Judgements to come

regardless where you flee too;
there I will find you.......

2 Take the millstones, and grind meal:
uncover thy locks, make bare the leg, uncover the thigh,
pass over the rivers.

3 Thy nakedness shall be uncovered, yea,
thy shame shall be seen:
I will take vengeance, and I will not meet thee as a man.

Sit thou silent, and get thee into darkness,
O daughter of the Chaldeans:
for thou shalt no more be called, The lady of kingdoms.
....
And thou saidst, I shall be a lady for ever:
so that thou didst not lay these things to thy heart,
neither didst remember the latter end of it
.

8 Therefore hear now this,
thou that art given to pleasures, that dwellest carelessly,
that sayest in thine heart,
I am, and none else beside me;
I shall not sit as a widow,
neither shall I know the loss of children:


Rev.
How much she hath glorified herself,
and lived deliciously,
so much torment and sorrow give her:
for she saith in her heart,
I sit a queen, and am no widow,
and shall see no sorrow.


She claims to be the Bride;
but she has no Husband
o_O

neither shall I know the loss of children:

still to come upon her

But these two things shall come to thee in a moment in one day,
the loss of children, and widowhood:
they shall come upon thee in their perfection for the multitude of thy sorceries,
and for the great abundance of thine enchantments.


balshan;
Posters make the mistake thinking Rome / the RCC / the daughter of the Chaldeans:
was a "Christian Church"
that apostized
and that just isn't so, it was never his to began with
so how did so many confessing people jet locked in a false system ?????

Is.47:6
6 I was wroth with my people,
I have polluted mine inheritance,
and given them into thine hand:
thou didst shew them no mercy;
upon the ancient hast thou very heavily laid thy yoke.

Thats the reason for the call in Johns Rev. 18
And I heard another voice from heaven, saying,
Come out of her, my people,
that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

5 For her sins have reached unto heaven,
and God hath remembered her iniquities.

The RCC has been from the get-go
its as Newman says of the Roman Church
"she begin in Chaldea; .............
ect. ect. ect"

O daughter of the Chaldeans:







..
 

pilgrim

Well-known member
Maxtar said:
There you go, just had to get that in there, didn't you?

There was but one Christian Church and it consisted of all the Christians then in this world. The head Bishop was in Rome and all looked to the Chair of Peter for guidance as the early Bishops tell us whose writings still exist today to verify this fact. I believe the term "Roman" that is used to describe the Church was added as a pejorative sometime in the middle Ages.



balshan;
The Church of the Religion of the Romans;
started much earlier way back, just after the Flood

its as Newman says of the Roman Church
"she begin in Chaldea; .............
ect. ect. ect"
and Scripture confirms it to be so

Is. 47:1
Come down, and sit in the dust, O virgin daughter of Babylon,
sit on the ground: there is no throne,
O daughter of the Chaldeans:
for thou shalt no more be called tender and delicate
.

Now read Revelation of the Judgements to come

regardless where you flee too;
there I will find you.......

2 Take the millstones, and grind meal:
uncover thy locks, make bare the leg, uncover the thigh,
pass over the rivers.

3 Thy nakedness shall be uncovered, yea,
thy shame shall be seen:
I will take vengeance, and I will not meet thee as a man.

Sit thou silent, and get thee into darkness,
O daughter of the Chaldeans:
for thou shalt no more be called, The lady of kingdoms.
....
And thou saidst, I shall be a lady for ever:
so that thou didst not lay these things to thy heart,
neither didst remember the latter end of it
.

8 Therefore hear now this,
thou that art given to pleasures, that dwellest carelessly,
that sayest in thine heart,
I am, and none else beside me;
I shall not sit as a widow,
neither shall I know the loss of children:


Rev.
How much she hath glorified herself,
and lived deliciously,
so much torment and sorrow give her:
for she saith in her heart,
I sit a queen, and am no widow,
and shall see no sorrow.


She claims to be the Bride;
but she has no Husband
o_O

neither shall I know the loss of children:

still to come upon her

But these two things shall come to thee in a moment in one day,
the loss of children, and widowhood:
they shall come upon thee in their perfection for the multitude of thy sorceries,
and for the great abundance of thine enchantments.


balshan;
Posters make the mistake thinking Rome / the RCC / the daughter of the Chaldeans:
was a "Christian Church"
that apostized
and that just isn't so, it was never his to began with
so how did so many confessing people jet locked in a false system ?????

Is.47:6
6 I was wroth with my people,
I have polluted mine inheritance,
and given them into thine hand:
thou didst shew them no mercy;
upon the ancient hast thou very heavily laid thy yoke.

Thats the reason for the call in Johns Rev. 18
And I heard another voice from heaven, saying,
Come out of her, my people,
that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

5 For her sins have reached unto heaven,
and God hath remembered her iniquities.

The RCC has been from the get-go
its as Newman says of the Roman Church
"she begin in Chaldea; .............
ect. ect. ect"

O daughter of the Chaldeans:







..
Is 43:
Thus says the Lord,
your Redeemer,the Holy One of Israel:
“For your sake I will send to Babylon
and break down all the bars,
and the shouting of the Chalde′ans will be turned to lamentations.
15 I am the Lord, your Holy One,
the Creator of Israel, your King.”

What you posted above in chapter 47 is the foretelling by Isaiah of the Fall of Babylon in 539BC by King Cyrus that preceded the return of the Israelites back to their land from captivity.

Context!
 

RayneBeau

Well-known member
No personal attacks, just the truth about your institution. You show by your diatribes against me that your words about loving your neighbour mean nothing and you do not want to know the truth about your institution. I do not do it against RCs, but I do speak out against your institution which is not a faith tradition but has a scandal tradition and a lack of respect for believers.

Your constant ad hominems tell us a lot. You show me that the reason I left was correct and that nothing has changed except the words used by the RCC. Its attitude to non RCs is still the same as when I was an RC and it was a false attitude.
I agree... if in fact the RCC actually had changed and now had the right attitude and thoughts toward non-RC's, they would be exhibiting that in right practices also.
 

rossh

Well-known member
Well, I see where the RCC has had a long time to fester this hatred. It started with Martin Luther, way back in October 13, 1517.
 

rossh

Well-known member
Maxtar said:
There you go, just had to get that in there, didn't you?

There was but one Christian Church and it consisted of all the Christians then in this world. The head Bishop was in Rome and all looked to the Chair of Peter for guidance as the early Bishops tell us whose writings still exist today to verify this fact. I believe the term "Roman" that is used to describe the Church was added as a pejorative sometime in the middle Ages.



balshan;
The Church of the Religion of the Romans;
started much earlier way back, just after the Flood

its as Newman says of the Roman Church
"she begin in Chaldea; .............
ect. ect. ect"
and Scripture confirms it to be so

Is. 47:1
Come down, and sit in the dust, O virgin daughter of Babylon,
sit on the ground: there is no throne,
O daughter of the Chaldeans:
for thou shalt no more be called tender and delicate
.

Now read Revelation of the Judgements to come

regardless where you flee too;
there I will find you.......

2 Take the millstones, and grind meal:
uncover thy locks, make bare the leg, uncover the thigh,
pass over the rivers.

3 Thy nakedness shall be uncovered, yea,
thy shame shall be seen:
I will take vengeance, and I will not meet thee as a man.

Sit thou silent, and get thee into darkness,
O daughter of the Chaldeans:
for thou shalt no more be called, The lady of kingdoms.
....
And thou saidst, I shall be a lady for ever:
so that thou didst not lay these things to thy heart,
neither didst remember the latter end of it
.

8 Therefore hear now this,
thou that art given to pleasures, that dwellest carelessly,
that sayest in thine heart,
I am, and none else beside me;
I shall not sit as a widow,
neither shall I know the loss of children:


Rev.
How much she hath glorified herself,
and lived deliciously,
so much torment and sorrow give her:
for she saith in her heart,
I sit a queen, and am no widow,
and shall see no sorrow.


She claims to be the Bride;
but she has no Husband
o_O

neither shall I know the loss of children:

still to come upon her

But these two things shall come to thee in a moment in one day,
the loss of children, and widowhood:
they shall come upon thee in their perfection for the multitude of thy sorceries,
and for the great abundance of thine enchantments.


balshan;
Posters make the mistake thinking Rome / the RCC / the daughter of the Chaldeans:
was a "Christian Church"
that apostized
and that just isn't so, it was never his to began with
so how did so many confessing people jet locked in a false system ?????

Is.47:6
6 I was wroth with my people,
I have polluted mine inheritance,
and given them into thine hand:
thou didst shew them no mercy;
upon the ancient hast thou very heavily laid thy yoke.

Thats the reason for the call in Johns Rev. 18
And I heard another voice from heaven, saying,
Come out of her, my people,
that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

5 For her sins have reached unto heaven,
and God hath remembered her iniquities.

The RCC has been from the get-go
its as Newman says of the Roman Church
"she begin in Chaldea; .............
ect. ect. ect"

O daughter of the Chaldeans:







..
Amen, and I agree with " balshan " on that " pagan Roman " nonsense and Rome, as far as the RCC is concerned is even more pagan. According to prophecy Israel will once again return...
 
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