Marx and the unborn baby

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Authentic Nouveau

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Dr. John Whitehall, who reported these statements to the Christian Anti-Communism Crusade in his article “Marx and the Unborn Baby,” (September 15, 1988), commented on Albury’s conclusions by saying



, “The inhumanity of communism resides in this arbitrary assessment of human life, which is based on the Marxist valuation of certain social relationships. On this basis, millions have been told ‘goodbye’ – from the purges of Russia, to the genocide in Cambodia, to the killings in the Philippines, and now to the unborn baby.”
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Pro-deather busy bodies conjure up labels like blob of tissue, group of cells, parasite. To dehumanize.

Personhood?

They can't define woman

Sentiency? Like people on the vent are non sentient. Under anesthesia also non-sentient.
 
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romishpopishorganist

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Authentic Nouveau said:
Pro-deather busy bodies conjure up labels like blob of tissue, group of cells, parasite. To dehumanize.

Personhood?

They can't define woman

Sentiency? Like people on the vent are non sentient. Under anesthesia also non-sentient.
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Actually---as an aside, while I agree with everything you wrote here-----

I think the definition of woman vs. a man is one of those things that you know when you see--but articulating an official definition is harder than one might realize.

Do not get me wrong--I believe there are two genders and only two genders. I know a woman when I see one, I know a man when I see one. Gender cannot be changed through surgery.

I am just suggesting that it may be more difficult than you realize to quantify or define precisely what it is to be a woman vs. a man, even if you know it when you see it.
 
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Fred

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Authentic Nouveau said:
Pro-deather busy bodies conjure up labels like blob of tissue, group of cells, parasite. To dehumanize.
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Hitler did the same thing with Jews, Eastern Europeans, etc.

I am an American and I am thankful that this country was founded on the correct belief of the Creator existing and being prayed to in the Declaration of Independence.

Has the Declaration of Independence been violated egregiously since Jan 6?

You tell me... Here is the Declaration: Congress, July 4, 1776 The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America, When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume...
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Authentic Nouveau

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Fred said:
Hitler did the same thing with Jews, Eastern Europeans, etc.

I am an American and I am thankful that this country was founded on the correct belief of the Creator existing and being prayed to in the Declaration of Independence.

Has the Declaration of Independence been violated egregiously since Jan 6?

You tell me... Here is the Declaration: Congress, July 4, 1776 The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America, When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume...
forums.carm.org
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As Christians, we lift people up. The heathen dehumanize.

The Muslims insist Jews are dogs and parasites.
 
Lastdaysbeliever

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romishpopishorganist said:
Actually---as an aside, while I agree with everything you wrote here-----

I think the definition of woman vs. a man is one of those things that you know when you see--but articulating an official definition is harder than one might realize.

Do not get me wrong--I believe there are two genders and only two genders. I know a woman when I see one, I know a man when I see one. Gender cannot be changed through surgery.

I am just suggesting that it may be more difficult than you realize to quantify or define precisely what it is to be a woman vs. a man, even if you know it when you see it.
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Can you give some examples of what you mean?
 
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romishpopishorganist

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Lastdaysbeliever said:
Can you give some examples of what you mean?
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I do not understand the question.

What examples are you looking for? What don't you understand about my post? What specifically needs and example? Are you asking about what I mean about it being difficult to quantify what a woman vs. a man is?

If so---

Suppose we say "A woman has an XX chromosome, a man an XY." Fine. What is a person with only an X, or an XXY? I think this is part of the reason biologists are confused. They seem to want to make the exceptions the rule. In other words--because in some cases gender may be unclear, that entails that in all cases, gender is unclear or fluid.

Many of the traditional ways one thinks of men vs. women are culturally conditioned. There is for example, nothing inherent in the color pink that is feminine, or blue that is masculine. I think this is part of what is causing the confusion in modern society over what it is to be a woman vs. a man. Many people think that becasue many of our concepts of women vs. men are based on cultural conditioning, that it entails there are no real substantive differences between men and women. This is not true of course.
 
Lastdaysbeliever

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romishpopishorganist said:
I do not understand the question.

What examples are you looking for? What don't you understand about my post? What specifically needs and example? Are you asking about what I mean about it being difficult to quantify what a woman vs. a man is?

If so---

Suppose we say "A woman has an XX chromosome, a man an XY." Fine. What is a person with only an X, or an XXY? I think this is part of the reason biologists are confused. They seem to want to make the exceptions the rule. In other words--because in some cases gender may be unclear, that entails that in all cases, gender is unclear or fluid.

Many of the traditional ways one thinks of men vs. women are culturally conditioned. There is for example, nothing inherent in the color pink that is feminine, or blue that is masculine. I think this is part of what is causing the confusion in modern society over what it is to be a woman vs. a man. Many people think that becasue many of our concepts of women vs. men are based on cultural conditioning, that it entails there are no real substantive differences between men and women. This is not true of course.
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Thanks.
 
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Nedsk

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Authentic Nouveau said:
Pro-deather busy bodies conjure up labels like blob of tissue, group of cells, parasite. To dehumanize.

Personhood?

They can't define woman

Sentiency? Like people on the vent are non sentient. Under anesthesia also non-sentient.
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Pro baby killers are just like Hitler and slave owners who denied the person hood of the people they hated. Once they did that they were free to treat them any way they liked.
 
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Eightcrackers

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Nedsk said:
Pro baby killers are just like Hitler and slave owners who denied the person hood of the people they hated. Once they did that they were free to treat them any way they liked.
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Pro-choice
= pro-abortion
= hates babies.

Absolutely insane "logic".

(By the way, all you Christians that hate Hitler had better hope he didn't repent before he died, because if he did, you're going to be spending the rest of eternity with him.)
 
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BMS

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Temujin said:
Wrong. That you know nothing about medicine does not mean necessarily that you know nothing about sailing.

Though of course this is in fact the case.
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Not wrong. If a woman has personhood and you cant define woman, which you cant, then your definition of personhood will consequently be suspect, which it is.
Showing ignorance of medicine and biology and then accusing others of without any evidence or reasoning it is just trolling mate.
 
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BMS

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Eightcrackers said:
They can.
Their definition differs from yours, that's all.
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They cant. They use the words for the opposite biological sex as gender, which means its a denial. Its a mental health issue that is being used for widespread child abuse.
They cant tell us the differnce between male and female in terms of gender as opposed to biological sex. As I posted earlier on another thread, the professor of women and gender studies could not define a woman, so he isnt competant to be a professor. All he could say was a woman ia someone who identifies as a woman, but couldnt say what the woman was that they are identifying as.
Mentally retarded.
 
Temujin

Temujin

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BMS said:
Not wrong. If a woman has personhood and you cant define woman, which you cant, then your definition of personhood will consequently be suspect, which it is.
Showing ignorance of medicine and biology and then accusing others of without any evidence or reasoning it is just trolling mate.
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Rubbish. I'm sorry, but you have shown on numerous occasions that on this subject you don't know what you are talking about.
 
Temujin

Temujin

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BMS said:
They cant. They use the words for the opposite biological sex as gender, which means its a denial. Its a mental health issue that is being used for widespread child abuse.
They cant tell us the differnce between male and female in terms of gender as opposed to biological sex. As I posted earlier on another thread, the professor of women and gender studies could not define a woman, so he isnt competant to be a professor. All he could say was a woman ia someone who identifies as a woman, but couldnt say what the woman was that they are identifying as.
Mentally retarded.
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You are not qualified to determine biology, medicine, sociology or indeed what is or is not mentally retarded. You have expressed your own opinion, uninformed, extreme and out of touch as it is. You are entitled to your opinion, just as the rest of the world is entitled to dismiss it as nonsense
 
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BMS

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Temujin said:
You are not qualified to determine biology, medicine, sociology or indeed what is or is not mentally retarded. You have expressed your own opinion, uninformed, extreme and out of touch as it is. You are entitled to your opinion, just as the rest of the world is entitled to dismiss it as nonsense
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Baseless contradiction. I have given the reasoning, if you want to comment on it do so.
 
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