Marx and the unborn baby

[Temujin]

Baseless contradiction. I have given the reasoning, if you want to comment on it do so.

I have commented on it. And will continue to do so. Your "reasoning" is nothing more than opinion based on prejudice. There is evidence or logic to discuss. You don't understand the issues and don't know what you are talking about.

Plus it is irrelevant to the thread.

 

[BMS]

I have commented on it. And will continue to do so. Your "reasoning" is nothing more than opinion based on prejudice. There is evidence or logic to discuss. You don't understand the issues and don't know what you are talking about.

Plus it is irrelevant to the thread.

You didnt comment on it you just gave your opinion, which you have just done again. The logic holds, your prejudiced and bigoted opinion is not evidence based.

Plus it is extremely relevant to the thread for two reasons. Firstly since you cant define a woman correctly we cant discuss matters that concern women. Secondly attempts to silence opposition doesnt work as you have beem told repreatedly and which you cant see happening with these posts.

 

[BMS]

In fact the thread was going ok until you posted ypur opinion that no one here knows anything about medicine and science, just like the hundreds of medical professionals and scientists on the nettie project, because you know better. .. for some.unknown reason which you havent been able to clarify except by constantly saying you have.

 

[Temujin]

You didnt comment on it you just gave your opinion, which you have just done again. The logic holds, your prejudiced and bigoted opinion is not evidence based.

Twaddle.

Plus it is extremely relevant to the thread for two reasons. Firstly since you cant define a woman correctly we cant discuss matters that concern women.

Abortion doesn't just concern women. Otherwise, why are you discussing it?

Secondly attempts to silence opposition doesnt work as you have beem told repreatedly and which you cant see happening with these posts.

No one is attempting to silence anyone. We are all expressing opinions here. We are also entitled to express our opinion on the validity of other opinions. None of this is "silencing". Ridiculing is not the same thing as silencing.

 

[Nedsk]

Pro-choice
= pro-abortion
= hates babies.

Absolutely insane "logic".

(By the way, all you Christians that hate Hitler had better hope he didn't repent before he died, because if he did, you're going to be spending the rest of eternity with him.)

Youre right you people dont hate babies you just love other things more than babies. Does that make you feel better?

I hope he did repent because if he actually did he wouldnt be the hitler we know from this life. This argument of yours isnt a good one.

 

[Eightcrackers]

Youre right you people dont hate babies you just love other things more than babies. Does that make you feel better?

So, you retract your ridiculous assertion that pro-choicers hate babies?

And yes, babies are way down my list of likes... which has absolutely no bearing on my pro-choice position.
Even if babies were the thing I hated most in the world, I would still not want my will imposed on a pregnant woman considering abortion.

I hope he did repent because if he actually did he wouldnt be the hitler we know from this life. This argument of yours isnt a good one.

He could repent, and the fact that he was responsible for ten million deaths would no longer matter to you?

The idea that everything is forgivable is utterly repellent to me - the fact that he aid he was sorry would not be sufficient for me to contemplate spending the rest of eternity with him.

 

[Nedsk]

So, you retract your ridiculous assertion that pro-choicers hate babies?

And yes, babies are way down my list of likes... which has absolutely no bearing on my pro-choice position.

No i dont. I altered it so as not to "offend" you. I thought you people liked that kind of thing?

Even if babies were the thing I hated most in the world, I would still not want my will imposed on a pregnant woman considering abortion.

He could repent, and the fact that he was responsible for ten million deaths would no longer matter to you?

The idea that everything is forgivable is utterly repellent to me - the fact that he aid he was sorry would not be sufficient for me to contemplate spending the rest of eternity with him.

Yes it would matter to me but his repentance has nothing to do with me.

This is exactly what scripture talks about when it says you will be judged by the same standards by which you judge others. You hate babies AND hitler. I get it.

 

[Temujin]

Pro baby killers are just like Hitler and slave owners who denied the person hood of the people they hated. Once they did that they were free to treat them any way they liked.

Personally, I love babies. I have grandchildren, with more expected soon. The fact that I love babies is one of the reasons why I am pro-choice. Unloved, unwanted and neglected babies are far too common, and will be more so if abortions are made illegal.

What I do hate are men ordering women what to do on religious grounds. I know that not all anti-choice advocates are motivated by religion, but patriarchal God-botherers are hateful.

 

[Nedsk]

Personally, I love babies. I have grandchildren, with more expected soon. The fact that I love babies is one of the reasons why I am pro-choice. Unloved, unwanted and neglected babies are far too common, and will be more so if abortions are made illegal.

What I do hate are men ordering women what to do on religious grounds. I know that not all anti-choice advocates are motivated by religion, but patriarchal God-botherers are hateful.

Stop it. There are millions of people looking to adopt babies.

No one is "ordering" anyone to do anything. Is it because I said you people hate babies that you think its ok to just say crazy things?

 

[Eightcrackers]

No i dont. I altered it so as not to "offend" you. I thought you people liked that kind of thing?

If you think all pro-choicers hate babies, you are beyond reason.

This is exactly what scripture talks about when it says you will be judged by the same standards by which you judge others. You hate babies AND hitler. I get it.

Instead of getting out gracefully, you double down.

 

[Eightcrackers]

I know that not all anti-choice advocates are motivated by religion

But the vast majority are, it has to be said.

 

[Temujin]

Stop it. There are millions of people looking to adopt babies.

And yet there are many more millions of children in "care" waiting to be adopted. So you stop it.

No one is "ordering" anyone to do anything. Is it because I said you people hate babies that you think its ok to just say crazy things?

What do you think "do not do this or you will be criminally prosecuted" is, if not an order? Perhaps "do not do this or be branded a murderer" is a mere suggestion?

 

[Nedsk]

If you think all pro-choicers hate babies, you are beyond reason.

Instead of getting out gracefully, you double down.

As I already stated if that offends you then its much nicer to say you love something more than babies. That is an indisputable fact.

My statement is true. why would get out gracefully? Leftists double down all the time on their trans-stupidity.

 

[Eightcrackers]

As I already stated if that offends you then its much nicer to say you love something more than babies.

It's not that it offends me.
It's that you are wrong, and presist in it.

On what do you base your assumption that I hate babies?

My statement is true.

Prove. It.
Prove that I hate babies.

 

[Nedsk]

And yet there are many more millions of children in "care" waiting to be adopted. So you stop it.

Incorrect. There is a waiting list for infants.

What do you think "do not do this or you will be criminally prosecuted" is, if not an order? Perhaps "do not do this or be branded a murderer" is a mere suggestion?

Its a law. Laws dont prevent people from making personal choices. Choices have consequences

 

[Nedsk]

It's not that it offends me.
It's that you are wrong, and presist in it.

On what do you base your assumption that I hate babies?

Prove. It.
Prove that I hate babies.

Its not wrong. Its spot on and that upsets you. Too bad

If a woman decides to have an abortion because it will interfere with her "going to school", which does she love more? The baby or school?

 

[Temujin]

Incorrect. There is a waiting list for infants.

Ahh, so the wannabe parents are only prepared to accept perfect, new born and obviously, white children, while you call those who abort damaged or deformed foetuses as murderers. Please check out just how many children are fostered or on care homes waiting for adoption before making that particularly cruel and pathetic argument.

Its a law. Laws dont prevent people from making personal choices. Choices have consequences

Indeed. One of the ways of dealing with consequences of unwanted pregnancy, is abortion. You, a man, want to prevent that happening for religious reasons. That is morally grotesque.

 

[Temujin]

Its not wrong. Its spot on and that upsets you. Too bad

If a woman decides to have an abortion because it will interfere with her "going to school", which does she love more? The baby or school?

Another perfectly stupid argument. Have you thought that going to school will enable her to earn more and so provide a better home for the babies she has in the future? Of course not. She is a woman and should not be thinking of careers or earning money. Her sole function is having a man's babies for him.

 

[Nedsk]

Ahh, so the wannabe parents are only prepared to accept perfect, new born and obviously, white children, while you call those who abort damaged or deformed foetuses as murderers. Please check out just how many children are fostered or on care homes waiting for adoption before making that particularly cruel and pathetic argument.

Indeed. One of the ways of dealing with consequences of unwanted pregnancy, is abortion. You, a man, want to prevent that happening for religious reasons. That is morally grotesque.

No not at all. Stop letting your ignorance get ahead of you. I love how you people twist crap to try an make an asinine point

Where have I said it was for "religious reasons"? Copy and paste my words. This is exactly why EVERYTHING a leftist must be challenged because they say stupid crap.

 

[Nedsk]

Another perfectly stupid argument. Have you thought that going to school will enable her to earn more and so provide a better home for the babies she has in the future? Of course not. She is a woman and should not be thinking of careers or earning money. Her sole function is having a man's babies for him.

Blah blah blah. More leftist hysteria.

There are three things people can do to make their life better. Get at least a high school diploma, get married and dont have babies until youre married. Do those things and its almost guaranteed your life wont be a sewer