Marx and the unborn baby

Temujin

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No not at all. Stop letting your ignorance get ahead of you. I love how you people twist crap to try an make an asinine point
You made an incorrect, that is false, statement. Pointing this out is not "asinine", though it is true that what you said is crap. (Are we allowed to say this now, or is it only Christians?)
Where have I said it was for "religious reasons"? Copy and paste my words. This is exactly why EVERYTHING a leftist must be challenged because they say stupid crap.
So, please tell us. What is your reason for objecting to abortion?
 

Temujin

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Blah blah blah. More leftist hysteria.
An argument you cannot answer, in other words.
There are three things people can do to make their life better. Get at least a high school diploma, get married and dont have babies until youre married. Do those things and its almost guaranteed your life wont be a sewer
Which is the motivation for the woman having an abortion in your example. Thank you for shooting your own argument down in flames.

Leaving aside the totally insane cost of actually having a baby in the US. It is hardly surprising that women in poverty chose to abort, or avoid ante-natal care to save money, resulting in the highest infant mortality rates in the developed world.
 

Eightcrackers

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Its not wrong. Its spot on
Prove it, then - put your money where your mouth is.

Or are you the kind of person that shouts insults from a moving car, because it's safer...?
If a woman decides to have an abortion because it will interfere with her "going to school", which does she love more? The baby or school?
Why are you asking me what somebody else loves?

You claimed that I - I - hate babies.
Prove that I hate babies, please.
 

Nedsk

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You made an incorrect, that is false, statement. Pointing this out is not "asinine", though it is true that what you said is crap. (Are we allowed to say this now, or is it only Christians?)
It wasnt incorrect at all
So, please tell us. What is your reason for objecting to abortion?
No you dont slither away that easy. You made a claim now back it up. Either that or admit you just say stupid crap.
 

Nedsk

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An argument you cannot answer, in other words.

Which is the motivation for the woman having an abortion in your example. Thank you for shooting your own argument down in flames.

Leaving aside the totally insane cost of actually having a baby in the US. It is hardly surprising that women in poverty chose to abort, or avoid ante-natal care to save money, resulting in the highest infant mortality rates in the developed world.
I did answer it. What you followed up with was drivel.

What are you babbling about now?

If people got at least a HS school diploma, got married and waited until they were married to have kids it wouldnt be so difficult. Unless you mean to say you love money more than babies.
 

Nedsk

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Prove it, then - put your money where your mouth is.

Or are you the kind of person that shouts insults from a moving car, because it's safer...?

Why are you asking me what somebody else loves?

You claimed that I - I - hate babies.
Prove that I hate babies, please.
Prove what? That you hate babies? I already did.

Because you agree with them.

Just did
 

Nedsk

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Yes it was.

You are asking me to say that the notion of objecting to abortion for religious reasons is "Stupid crap"? Are you sure?
Not because you say so

No what I said was you need to prove that I object to abortion for religious reasons, which is the claim you made. Now back up your claim or admit you just spew stupid crap. You be able to read would make this easier you know.
 

Temujin

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I did answer it. What you followed up with was drivel.

What are you babbling about now?

If people got at least a HS school diploma, got married and waited until they were married to have kids it wouldnt be so difficult. Unless you mean to say you love money more than babies.
If people get pregnant while they are at high school, and have an abortion, then they are still on track for your recipe for happiness. If abortion is illegal, then their route to happiness, according to you, is blocked. You support condemning thousands of young women (not men, obviously) to an unhappy life for the "crime" of having sex before they are married. This is your argument. please explain it, because it looks like prurient intolerance for patriarchal reasons to me.
 

Nedsk

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If people get pregnant while they are at high school, and have an abortion, then they are still on track for your recipe for happiness. If abortion is illegal, then their route to happiness, according to you, is blocked. You support condemning thousands of young women (not men, obviously) to an unhappy life for the "crime" of having sex before they are married. This is your argument. please explain it, because it looks like prurient intolerance for patriarchal reasons to me.
Why are they getting pregnant in high school? That is literally one of the 3 things to avoid for future success.. Oh right youre one of those that thinks people cant exercise self control. There are plenty of ways to avoid pregnancy not just abstinence. I dont condemn anyone to anything. Thats not my argument thats your twisted interpretation of my argument but like a good nutty leftist you believe whatever you think is fact. Id try to convince you thats not true but we know leftists cant think beyond their agenda.
 

Temujin

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Prove what? That you hate babies? I already did.

Because you agree with them.

Just did
May I respectfully suggest that you wait a few hours before responding further. Your responses are getting more emotional and less rational (if that were possible) by the minute. You have NOT proved that anyone "hates babies". You have NOT shown that anybody agrees with any hypothetical baby-haters. You have NOT shown that @Eightcrackers in particular hates babies. You are posting falsehoods. Please reflect on what an evangelical Christian would do at this point. We await an apology with bated breath.
 

Nedsk

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May I respectfully suggest that you wait a few hours before responding further. Your responses are getting more emotional and less rational (if that were possible) by the minute. You have NOT proved that anyone "hates babies". You have NOT shown that anybody agrees with any hypothetical baby-haters. You have NOT shown that @Eightcrackers in particular hates babies. You are posting falsehoods. Please reflect on what an evangelical Christian would do at this point. We await an apology with bated breath.
What i love is how rabid you people get about being told you hate babies. I like how hissy you get when people say things about you that you dont believe are true. Thats just how it is right? Whats in a womans womb isnt a baby right? So whats all this noise about?
 

Temujin

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Why are they getting pregnant in high school? That is literally one of the 3 things to avoid to failure.
Because they are pressurised into having sex by their peers. Because adequate, let alone good, sex education is banned from their school for ideological reasons. Because they got drunk or high. Because their uptight religious zealots of parents don't show them any affection. Because they are adults, with adult bodies and instincts, living in aninfantalising culture. Or for one or more of a myriad of other reasons.
Oh right youre one of those that thinks people cant exercise self control. There are plenty of ways to avoid pregnancy not just abstinence. I dont condemn anyone to anything. Thats not my argument thats your twisted interpretation of my argument but like a good nutty leftist you believe whatever you think is fact. Id try to convince you thats not true but we know leftists cant think beyond their agenda.
And the argument in favour of abortion rights is "leftist" for what reason, exactly? I might also ask why you think that "leftist" is an insult, or why you think that I personally am "leftist", but then I remembered that you are American, and consequently "leftist" means "an idea I disagree with".
 

Eightcrackers

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May I respectfully suggest that you wait a few hours before responding further. Your responses are getting more emotional and less rational (if that were possible) by the minute. You have NOT proved that anyone "hates babies". You have NOT shown that anybody agrees with any hypothetical baby-haters. You have NOT shown that @Eightcrackers in particular hates babies. You are posting falsehoods. Please reflect on what an evangelical Christian would do at this point. We await an apology with bated breath.
I don't think this person is talking to us, to be honest.

I think they are talking to their compatriots, reinforcing their own rhetoric.
 

Nedsk

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Where?

Agree with whom, about what?

Would you like to be told lies about your beliefs?
Im told lies all the time about my belief. Im still waiting for another poster to provide evidence of a claim they made about me that I oppose abortion for religious reasons. Stop whining
 

Temujin

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What i love is how rabid you people get about being told you hate babies. I like how hissy you get when people say things about you that you dont believe are true. Thats just how it is right? Whats in a womans womb isnt a baby right? So whats all this noise about?
Please review the last twenty posts on this thread. there are rabid posts amongst them for sure. Intolerant, ranting, incoherent as well as rabid. Any disinterested reader can see who is writing those intolerant, ranting, incoherent and rabid posts. That is why I suggest that you stop.
 

Temujin

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I don't think this person is talking to us, to be honest.

I think they are talking to their compatriots, reinforcing their own rhetoric.
Of course you are right. "Look at me, fighting the good fight." says the anonymous nobody on the internet. When I was in the police, we called this sort of person a "Hundred yards hero", capable of saying anything at all as long as they were a hundred yards away from any possible consequences.
 

Eightcrackers

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Im told lies all the time about my belief. Im still waiting for another poster to provide evidence of a claim they made about me that I oppose abortion for religious reasons. Stop whining
By me?

"People that aren't you lie about my beliefs, so I'm allowed to lie about yours?"

Also, you said I agreed with somebody about something, and this proves that I hate babies -

with whom do I agree,
on what do I agree with them, and
how does this prove that I hate babies

?

Still waiting.
 

Eightcrackers

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Of course you are right. "Look at me, fighting the good fight." says the anonymous nobody on the internet. When I was in the police, we called this sort of person a "Hundred yards hero", capable of saying anything at all as long as they were a hundred yards away from any possible consequences.
And they think that repeating a thing - louder, usually - counts as proof.
 
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