Which is why many non-Catholic posters on the RC forum quote MVs to refute Catholic doctrine.
well it is NOT so much the Doctrines that are debated but it the RCC that does not of itself follow .
1 Cor 7:
Now to deal with the questions you wrote about: "Is it good for a man to keep away from women?"
Well, because of the danger of sexual immorality, let each man have his own wife and each woman her own husband.
The husband should give his wife what she is entitled to in the marriage relationship, and the wife should do the same for her husband.
The wife is not in charge of her own body, but her husband is; likewise, the husband is not in charge of his own body, but his wife is.
Do not deprive each other, except for a limited time, by mutual agreement, and then only so as to have extra time for prayer; but afterwards, come together again. Otherwise, because of your lack of self-control, you may succumb to the Adversary's temptation.
I am giving you this as a suggestion, not as a command.
Actually, I wish everyone were like me; but each has his own gift from God, one this, another that.
Now to the single people and the widows I say that it is fine if they remain unmarried like me;
but if they can't exercise self-control, they should get married; because it is better to get married than to keep burning with sexual desire.
To those who are married I have a command, and it is not from me but from the Lord: a woman is not to separate herself from her husband
But if she does separate herself, she is to remain single or be reconciled with her husband. Also, a husband is not to leave his wife.
Well, it is all very plain and simple yet, so many want to " change and alter " issues to suit their needs and situation..
well, and a s for the cults of old and or new..
1 Cor 1:
For the Messiah did not send me to immerse but to proclaim the Good News - and to do it without relying on "wisdom" that consists of mere rhetoric, so as not to rob the Messiah's execution-stake of its power.
For the message about the execution-stake is nonsense to those in the process of being destroyed, but to us in the process of being saved it is the power of God.
Indeed, the Tanakh says, "I will destroy the wisdom of the wise and frustrate the intelligence of the intelligent."
Where does that leave the philosopher, the Torah-teacher, or any of today's thinkers? Hasn't God made this world's wisdom look pretty foolish?
For God's wisdom ordained that the world, using its own wisdom, would not come to know him. Therefore God decided to use the "nonsense" of what we proclaim as his means of saving those who come to trust in it.
Where does the Bible say that baptism means immersion?
Not so, according to Matt Slick.
Does the word baptism mean immersion or sprinkling?
by Matt Slick
| Aug 22, 2013 | Baptism
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No, the word “baptism” does not always mean immersion. There are several New Testament usages that clearly have different meanings. Let’s take a look.
- Mark 10:38, “But Jesus said to them, “You do not know what you are asking for. Are you able to drink the cup that I drink, or to be baptized with the baptism with which I am baptized?”
- Mark 10:39, “And they said to Him, ‘We are able.’ And Jesus said to them, ‘The cup that I drink you shall drink; and you shall be baptized with the baptism with which I am baptized.'”
- Luke 12:50, “I have come to cast fire upon the earth; and how I wish it were already kindled! 50 But I have a baptism to undergo, and how distressed I am until it is accomplished!”
These next verses speak of being baptized with the Spirit
. This isn’t an immersion. It is a pouring upon because the Holy Spirit is always poured upon
a person. If the Scriptures tell us that the Spirit is poured upon us and we are baptized with the Spirit, then it makes sense to say that baptism here means pouring upon.
- Pour upon with the Holy Spirit
- Isaiah 44:3, “I will pour out My Spirit on your offspring, and My blessing on your descendants.”
- Joel 2:28, And it will come about after this that I will pour out My Spirit on all mankind . . . “
- Joel 2:29 “And even on the male and female servants I will pour out My Spirit in those days.”
- Acts 2:17, “And it shall be in the last days,” God says, “That I will pour forth of My Spirit upon all mankind.”
- Acts 2:18, “Even upon My bondslaves, both men and women, I will in those days pour forth of My Spirit and they shall prophesy.”
- Baptized with the Holy Spirit
- Matt. 3:11 “As for me, I baptize you with water for repentance, but He who is coming after me is mightier than I, and I am not fit to remove His sandals; He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.”
- Mark 1:8, “I baptized you with water; but He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit.”
- Luke 3:16, “John answered and said to them all, “As for me, I baptize you with water; but One is coming who is mightier than I, and I am not fit to untie the thong of His sandals; He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.”
- John 1:33, “And I did not recognize Him, but He who sent me to baptize in water said to me, ‘He upon whom you see the Spirit descending and remaining upon Him, this is the one who baptizes in the Holy Spirit.’
- Acts 1:5, “for John baptized with water, but you shall be baptized with the Holy Spirit not many days from now.”
Washings and Sprinkling
If that isn’t enough to show that the word baptize does not always mean immersion, there are derivations of the word that also show it can mean washing and sprinkling. But first, let’s take a very short look at the word “baptize” in Greek.
In Greek, nouns change their spelling depending on their usage. In English, for example, we have the word actor, actors, actresses, actresses. These words are “cognates”; that is, they are related to each other in form. The word “actor” changes form and with it plurality and gender is expressed, but the root of the word is “act.” The same thing goes with baptismois
, etc. The root of the word is bapt
, and the word as a whole changes form depending on usage. Here are a few cognates.
You should at least give the subject you want to talk about a cursory research. I don't know why you fail to do this over and over.
Your credibility takes a hit each and every time you do this. Ultimately, your KJVO stance is completely off topic in this thread.
Do a bit of study before you come out swinging. It will help you learn to stop saying things that aren't true. Most of the time, a cursory look would save your chops.
From the CJB Mary 10:Ya‘akov and Yochanan, the sons of Zavdai, came up to him and said, “Rabbi, we would like you to do us a favor.” 36 He said to them, “What do you want me to do for you?” 37 They replied, “When you are in your glory, let us sit with you, one on your right and the other on your left.” 38 But Yeshua answered, “You don’t know what you’re asking! Can you drink the cup that I am drinking? or be immersed with the immersion that I must undergo?” 39 They said to him, “We can.” Yeshua replied, “The cup that I am drinking, you will drink; and the immersion I am being immersed with, you will undergo. 40 But to sit on my right and on my left is not mine to give. Rather, it is for those for whom it has been prepared.”
NB He replied with, " immersed WITH " umm ? interesting// How ever, same result in the end, through Him alone we are saved, if we believe.