Specifically what is your problem with the above?
Nowhere does scripture, Jesus, or his apostles speak of Mary as an efficient cause.
This is correct. Not even a hint of this in Scripture.
As well praise the paintbrush for the Mona Lisa. ?
And the paint brush's relationship with the paint, the canvas as well as the artist.
Actually------you are not that off.
Says who? Maybe God doesn't need a 'perfect tool for a perfect vessel'. If you look at His lineage its far from perfect. God certainly used miracles to accomplish His mission of salvation but mary didn't need to be perfect she just had to be obedient. Which she was.
No you failed once again to prove the Marian doctrines as right, they are false. They are not scriptural at all. Mary is not meant to be a statue which people bow to. Mary is Jesus mother, she was not a PV, she was not IC, there was no assumption. She was an obedient Jewish maiden.
Can Jesus be my Savior and I not be a member of the rc denomination?
so you accept these ECF Greek Scholars?
orthodoxchristiantheology.com
That makes Mary's vow of virginity more credible.
Well, the Holy of Holies in the Old Testament would suggest otherwise. And their God didn't dwell IN it, He merely dwelt ON and ABOVE it on the Mercy Seat, spiritually. If the Holy of Holies had to be perfect---how much more the vessel in whom he dwelt bodily and biologically.
Of course, it is. You miss the point---of course. Mary is rather unique in the history of redemption. Mary isn't just another prophet, king, or even relative of Jesus.
And if all Mary is was yet another prophet, king, relative of Jesus or whatever--you would have a point. Mary is unique in the order of redemption.
Funny how in this debate we just need to sit back and let the Protestants attempt to argue against our position--and in so doing, actually unwittingly bolster our position.
What does Exodus 20:4 have to do with devotion to Mary?
That is nonsense, ding. She was betrothed but, as Matthew tells us, she and Joseph had not yet "come together." Betrothed virgins were expected to remain virgins until their wedding night. So, when Gabriel told Mary that she would bear the Messiah, she wanted to know how that was possible, since she was a virgin....nothing like this had ever happened before since creation.
No it doesn't. That is a false teaching arising from that evil POJ. She was a virgin because she and Joseph had not completed their marriage service.
We did nothing of the kind, romish. Mary's question has nothing to do with her supposedly making a vow of remaining a virgin for her entire life. IF that were true--why did she get betrothed to Joseph in the first place, IF she had no intention of being a true wife to Joseph in the fullest sense of the word? And she was betrothed BEFORE Gabriel came to her. She could have just lived with her parents until they died and then lived with some other relatives until she died, still chaste.
We can see the desperation of the Catholics on here, in their desire to keep their Mary a chaste near goddess who could never, ever be caught doing something so....normal and earthy as have marital relations with her lawful husband, Joseph, and joyfully raising up children with him, as gifts from God.
It is though God is punishing her for something, as children are a gift from God and a loving husband is also a gift.
Actually, we don't just post "random" scripture verses at all. But it is pretty obvious what the poster was trying to do with posting those verses.