But there are OTHER scholars who disagree--aren't there, dberrie? This just shows that there is a lot of scholastic opinion out there--doesn't it? Scholastic opinions are just that--opinions, aren't they? NOT necessarily the truth? They may THINK it is the truth, but that doesn't necessarily mean it IS, does it?How does that explain Heiser's testimony?
ABSTRACT THE DIVINE COUNCIL IN LATE CANONICAL AND NON-CANONICAL SECOND TEMPLE JEWISH LITERATURE
Michael S. Heiser Under the supervision of Professor Michael V. Fox At the University of Wisconsin-Madison
"Biblical scholarship has reached a consensus with respect to the presence of a divine assembly of gods in Israel’s faith."
When the thread was present on the old boards with Markk--I relayed to him what Heiser wrote--and he sent me a retort that Heiser didn't believe those gods were real gods. I stated Heiser did indeed believe they were real, heavenly gods referred to in Psalm 82--and elsewhere. So--Markk asked Heiser himself if Heiser believed the gods were real, heavenly gods--and then, Markk posted Heiser's return reply. Heiser stated he believed the gods were real, heavenly gods--because he couldn't reject what the Bible plainly taught.
So--here is another article:
READINGS OF PSALM 82 IN CONTEMPORARY SCHOLARSHIP---The Journal of Hebrew Scriptures
"It is a commonplace of biblical scholarship to affirm the mythological character of Psalm 82. Most scholars by now agree that the -'!+ that come under divine judgment and are condemned to death in this Psalm are not human leaders, or judges, but divine beings, members of a divine council."
What is your evidence those testimonies aren't true?
I take it that it is in reference to "most scholars". The notable scholarship above is by notable scholars. They should know, and--if it was not true--it would be questioned by a flood of negative responses by the scholars themselves.
So--please post where the scholars question where the majority of scholars don't believe--"scholarship has reached a consensus with respect to the presence of a divine assembly of gods in Israel’s faith."
Your second link just has "most scholars" in it--but does not list who these "most scholars" ARE--does it?
And Heiser has stated that Mormons misuse his research and conclusions about Ps. 82--hasn't he?
I had a link to some who disagree, didn't I, dberrie? Remember this?:
Psalm 82:6 Commentaries: I said, "You are gods, And all of you are sons of the Most High. (biblehub.com)
And I had excerpts from Dr. James White's articles, ,didn't I, dberrie? And he disagrees with Heiser and YOU, doesn't he, dberrie?
I remember what Markk wrote on here and some of what Heiser wrote--he did believe these "gods" existed and were heavenly--but he stated that they were created spirit beings, not like YHWH, Who is UNcreated and unique--didn't he? He does NOT believe that this Psalm is about men becoming gods--remember where I quoted him writing that?
But it is telling that you must continually resort to Heiser to back up what you want to believe about Ps. 82, isn't it--even though he has stated that Mormons misuse his research and conclusions about Ps. 82, and that the psalm isn't about men becoming gods--hasn't he, dberrie?
Now, when are you going to answer my questions about Ps. 82, dberrie? Why do you keep ignoring them?
1. IF these "gods" in Ps. 82 are true deity, WHY are they judging unjustly and favoring the wicked? Wouldn't that be a sin? Wouldn't that make them like Satan and his demons? SINNERS?
2. IF these "gods" in Ps. 82 are true deity and are judging in the earth, HOW would people contact them so they COULD render judgments in religious and civil matters?
3. Do you think that these "gods" in Ps. 82 are TRUE DEITY? Yes or no?
so when are you going to answer them?