Mother Mary

After being here for over 10 years I find that logical arguments don't work and that bumper sticker quotes work better.
Yes well that explains a lot about RCs posts. Why they ignore questions and divert off topic and then why they start making false accusations. It is to cover up their inability to defend their faith in a logical manner and need slogans. But then try to claim their institution is guided by the HS. These answers show how it is not guided by the HS and how man made their teachings and claims are. The truth can always be defended.
 
But the Holy Spirit guided Luther. Who was the leader of your church before Luther?

One of the main problem with your argument is that there is no other church that has a history dating back to Jesus and the apostles except the Catholic church.
And that includes your institution. Its ugly head appeared at Nicene in 325 Ad. where only approx 250 to 300 of the 1800 bishops turned up. Those there decided to follow Roman Emperors and that can be seen in its behaviours of killing off those who disagreed with it.
 
Quoting scripture doesn't work

Because you won't believe the clear words of Scripture that we post.
. The nCCs just run away when we quote Scripture - they hide behind their interpretations and then claim scripture alone as their final authority.
No, that is false. We deal with what you post, by posting MORE Scripture on more context, to show that you are not rightly dividing the word of truth with what you have posted.
 
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But the Holy Spirit guided Luther. Who was the leader of your church before Luther?

Jesus is the leader of the TRUE church--His rule in the hearts and minds of those who put their faith and trust in Jesus Christ and His finished work on the cross ONLY for their salvation, great and free. Not in your popes, membership in your church, or in Mary.
One of the main problem with your argument is that there is no other church that has a history dating back to Jesus and the apostles except the Catholic church.
The main problem with YOUR argument is that YOUR church no more dates back to Jesus Christ and the Apostles than the Mormon church does! That is a lie your church has arrogantly declared for centuries! But we who know history know better!
 
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Our Lord's God said:
Every heretic says he refuted the heretics.

"It" is the body of Christ who is the truth.
Protestantism is heresy.
then you know all of the beliefs of all of those that you call Protestant?

It has rejected the truth of the Church.
do all protestants have the same beliefs? do you know and understand them all?

what the rcc claims to be its truth is not the same as what God claims is His truth.

is the rcc God? does it know all that God knows?
 
Protestantism is heresy. It has rejected the truth of the Church.
The Catholic Church was in error and refused to be corrected:
and It it is about to happen again, as your current Pope and his supporters refuse to be corrected.

from faithful, knowledgeable, Church-loving, Catholic Author Peter Kreeft
quote
"How do I resolve the Reformation?​
Is it faith alone that justifies, or is it faith and works?
Very simple. No tricks.​
On this issue I believe Luther was simply right; and this issue is absolutely crucial.​
As a Catholic I feel guilt for the tragedy of Christian disunity because the church in the fifteenth and sixteenth centuries was failing to preach the gospel.
Whatever theological mistakes Luther made, whatever indispensable truths about the Church he denied, here is an indispensable truth he affirmed — indispensable to union between all sinners and God and union between God’s separated Catholic and Protestant children."​
end quote
 
Jesus is the leader of the TRUE church--His rule in the hearts and minds of those who put their faith and trust in Jesus Christ and His finished work on the cross ONLY for their salvation, great and free. Not in your popes, membership in your church, or in Mary.

The main problem with YOUR argument is that YOUR church no more dates back to Jesus Christ and the Apostles than the Mormon church does! That is a lie your church has arrogantly declared for centuries! But we who know history know better!
It is not a lie; it is a fact.
 
The false claim and it is fact, is that the RCC is not His church and never has been. This is shown in its fruit over the centuries and its false teachings and claims and smelly fruit.
There has been good fruit and smelly fruit over the centuries. But there is a record and there is a history.
 
There has been good fruit and smelly fruit over the centuries. But there is a record and there is a history.
But scripture is clear the good tree does not produce smelly fruit. Jesus' church is the good tree and your institution fills the requirements of the bad tree. Well done you have proved that your institution is not Jesus' church at all.

No one believes a record and history of liars and your institution leaders are proven liars. So that means nothing at all. It does not make it Jesus' church.
 
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