The Book of Revelation is John’s accounting of a vision he received.You do realize Revelation is a symbolic book, or do you not?
The Book of Revelation is John’s accounting of a vision he received.You do realize Revelation is a symbolic book, or do you not?
But Luke recorded the Bereans doing so, to see if what Paul had taught them was true. So should we all, to test any doctrine that is taught in church.Jesus did not always teach "search the scriptures". He didn't say always search the scriptures.
EXcellent point, it makes you wonder why God sent the HS when all that was needed was to pray to Mary?The Holy Spirit. But where did He say we should and could pray to Mary for help, salvation, and succor?
Luke 1--41 When Elizabeth heard Mary’s greeting, the baby leaped in her womb, and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit. 42 In a loud voice she exclaimed: “Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the child you will bear! 43 But why am I so favored, that the mother of my Lord should come to me? 44 As soon as the sound of your greeting reached my ears, the baby in my womb leaped for joy. 45 Blessed is she who has believed that the Lord would fulfill his promises to her."That’s not what the scriptures say.
So, the perfect Son of God who never sinned honored His mother IMperfectly??? Is that what you are implying?Please show me where Scripture teaches that He "honored His mother perfectly."
No kidding.The Book of Revelation is John’s accounting of a vision he received.
The Holy Spirit is many things to real believers, he is our helper and comforter:That is not what THE SCRIPTURES say.
You missed a spot:
”41 When Elizabeth heard Mary’s greeting, the baby leaped in her womb, and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit.”
The Book of Revelation is John’s accounting of a vision he received.
those who do want to know what scripture teaches WILL search scripture.dingoling. said:
Jesus did not always teach "search the scriptures". He didn't say always search the scriptures.
Yes, those are prayers of intercession.And almost none of the Marian prayers I have read are pleas for intercession--instead, they are pleas for help, safety, to resist the devil, for salvation--things only God can do for us.
The scripture plainly says it happened when Elizabeth heard Mary’s greeting.Luke 1--41 When Elizabeth heard Mary’s greeting, the baby leaped in her womb, and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit. 42 In a loud voice she exclaimed: “Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the child you will bear! 43 But why am I so favored, that the mother of my Lord should come to me? 44 As soon as the sound of your greeting reached my ears, the baby in my womb leaped for joy. 45 Blessed is she who has believed that the Lord would fulfill his promises to her."
Luke 1:15 says Elizabeth's baby would be filled with the Holy Spirit before he was born. How and why else would the unborn John know Mary was near, so he would leap for joy?
Your 1st response you left it out.I didn't miss anything....what about it??? Not sure what point it is you think you're making.
39 In those days Mary arose and went with haste into the hill country, to a town in Judah, 40 and she entered the house of Zechariah and greeted Elizabeth. 41 And when Elizabeth heard the greeting of Mary, the baby leaped in her womb. And Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit, 42 and she exclaimed with a loud cry, “Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb!
You think John leap because of Mary? Or because of the Messiah she was carrying?
You missed a spot:
”41 When Elizabeth heard Mary’s greeting, the baby leaped in her womb, and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit.”
No, they are not. I put down in a thread that prayer to Our Lady of Perpetual Help on here. Nowhere does the pray-er ask Mary to intercede for him with Jesus--from start to finish it is a prayer of hyper praise to her, begging her for help, salvation, and refuge. Even to save him from the "justifiable" wrath of her Son. Shameful.Yes, those are prayers of intercession.
If it looks like a duck, sounds like a duck....John leapt in elizabeth's womb because salvation had arrived. Jesus had come. 4Him was speaking of Jesus and the Holy Spirit. You redirected our attention to mary, instead of Jesus.
Elevating mary with titles such as mediatrix, co-redemptrix, cause of our salvation, most holy mother of god, our Immaculate lady, and queen of heaven cannot help but foster mariolatry. Singing hymns to mary, praying to her, kissing her picture, parading her image through the streets, and bowing down before her statue reflect a degree of reverence that certainly imitates idolatry and might as well be called mariolatry.
Where are the links to what the poster stated???4Him stated that y’all believe everything THE SCRIPTURES teach about Mary.
To which I asked -what prompted- Elizabeth to prophesy and John the Baptist to leap in utero.
THE SCRIPTURES plainly state the sound of Mary’s greeting prompted the chain of events that followed.
The Holy Spirit will guide us in all truth of what is truth! But He will NOT make up myths fabricated by some silly, senile old man wearing a fish hat. Paul was very clear when he said, "....do no go beyond that which is written".It doesn't need to be. Not all Christian beliefs are found in scripture. Jesus told us that the Holy Spirit will guide us into all the truth. Jesus didn't say that all truth that we are to believe are to be found in scripture alone.