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Did Martie know Jesus was a Jew when he decided Jews should be killed?On the Jews and Their Lies (German: Von den Jüden und iren Lügen) Martin Luther.
Was Martie a troo Lutheran?
Did Martie know Jesus was a Jew when he decided Jews should be killed?On the Jews and Their Lies (German: Von den Jüden und iren Lügen) Martin Luther.
Was Martie a troo Lutheran?
Luther was a sinner just like the rest of humanity and like the rest of Christendom, he was also a saint.Did Martie know Jesus was a Jew when he decided Jews should be killed?
You just declared in large neon letters that you haven't read the work you cited and then pretended to comment upon above. In that work Luther specifically wrote not to harm their persons.Did Martie know Jesus was a Jew when he decided Jews should be killed?
Yes, that was probably too much Geek speak for most people.Greek to me????
I think this is a good place to focus the discussion for a bit. What does it mean when Scripture says in various ways that Jesus takes away our sins?That is what I believe too, so why do so many fight that Jesus did NOT take away our sin, seeing as they still sin?
Yeah, I think if you work hard, you get eternal life. That's sorta the way God makes sense to people that don't comprehend the Gospel.
Wow, I'm glad someone added a post to this thread, otherwise I would never had seen an email alerting me to this thread! Somehow, I missed your response from OCTOBER!Yes, that was probably too much Geek speak for most people.
I think this is a good place to focus the discussion for a bit. What does it mean when Scripture says in various ways that Jesus takes away our sins?
Here is an example from 1 John.
“2. Beloved, now we are children of God; and it has not yet been made manifest what we shall be, but we know that when He appears, we shall be like Him, because we shall see Him as He is.3. And everyone who has this hope in Him purifies himself, just as He is pure. 4. Everyone who practices sin also practices lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness. 5. And you know that He appeared that He might take away our sins, and in Him there is no sin. 6. Everyone who abides in Him does not sin; everyone who sins has not seen Him nor has he known Him.” (1Jo 3:2-6, EMTV)
Looking at verse three, when it says, "... everyone who has this hope in Him purifies himself," the verb translated as, "purifies," indicates an ongoing action by everyone who has this hope in Him. There would be no need for this ongoing action if verse in verse five it meant that Jesus might take away our sin in a categorical or ontological sense in this life. If that were true then there would be no need for the ongoing action of everyone who has this hope in Him purifying himself in verse three.
According to the immediate context what do you say this section of Scripture means in this regard?
What is left that we must grow in, 1 John 3:3, have to do with the fruit of the Spirit and 2 Peter 1:5-7 gives the steps of that growth.
So--did Jesus comprehend the gospel?
Matthew 19:16-19---King James Version
16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Is that the "hard work" you refer to?
Did Martie know Jesus was a Jew when he decided Jews should be killed?
The gospel is The Truth.
John 8:32-36
What do you see as "the truth"?
According to you, the Bible cannot be trusted. How sad is that? Don't even try to deny it. I have your words.
To be sure--that seems to me like calling the kettle black.
Lutheranism has precious little in common with the Biblical text:
Matthew 19:16-19---King James Version
16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
You can hold whatever opinion you want. The facts overwhelm you.
And hear I thought you were enjoying a peaceful vacation somewhere.Wow, I'm glad someone added a post to this thread, otherwise I would never had seen an email alerting me to this thread! Somehow, I missed your response from OCTOBER!
Jesus takes away the sin of the world, John 1:29. Or as he wrote in 1 John, “And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not only concerning ours, but also concerning those of the whole world.” (1Jo 2:2, EMTV)So my response to Jesus taking away our sin is a question, which of the two types of sin does Jesus take away?
This looks like it is based on a misunderstanding of terms. Sticking with 1 John and the verse you cited above, all sin is lawlessness, “Everyone who practices sin also practices lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness.” (1Jo 3:4, EMTV)1 John 3:4 refers to the type of sin. LAWLESSNESS. Those are sins unto death, which would be anyone committing a sin the Israelite were commanded to kill - no sacrifice could cover these sins. So breaking one of the Ten Commandments that applied to their Covenant, sorcery, even a teenage thug. Galatians 5:19-21 gives a good list.
Sticking with 1John it is apparent that the faithful are not without sin, just as he wrote earlier in the Epistle, since the one that has the hope that he shall be without sin like Him purifies himself. “2. Beloved, now we are children of God; and it has not yet been made manifest what we shall be, but we know that when He appears, we shall be like Him, because we shall see Him as He is. 3. And everyone who has this hope in Him purifies himself, just as He is pure.” (1Jo 3:2-3, EMTV)What is left that we must grow in, 1 John 3:3, have to do with the fruit of the Spirit and 2 Peter 1:5-7 gives the steps of that growth.
lawlessness is the theme of the fleshbody,Wow, I'm glad someone added a post to this thread, otherwise I would never had seen an email alerting me to this thread! Somehow, I missed your response from OCTOBER!
So my response to Jesus taking away our sin is a question, which of the two types of sin does Jesus take away? 1 John 3:4 refers to the type of sin. LAWLESSNESS. Those are sins unto death, which would be anyone committing a sin the Israelite were commanded to kill - no sacrifice could cover these sins. So breaking one of the Ten Commandments that applied to their Covenant, sorcery, even a teenage thug. Galatians 5:19-21 gives a good list.
What is left that we must grow in, 1 John 3:3, have to do with the fruit of the Spirit and 2 Peter 1:5-7 gives the steps of that growth.
No righteousness in the world, but Jesus Christ is our righteousness, when we put our faith and trust in Him for eternal life in heaven, great and free.lawlessness is the theme of the fleshbody,
which is an abomination to Him .
Only christ can get us out of that…situation, and save us from here…
for there is no righteousness in this world, literally…
What I said did not conflict with any of that...No righteousness in the world, but Jesus Christ is our righteousness, when we put our faith and trust in Him for eternal life in heaven, great and free.
Jesus Christ is OUR righteousness. In Him alone are we made righteous in God's eyes.
No righteousness in the world, but Jesus Christ is our righteousness, when we put our faith and trust in Him for eternal life in heaven, great and free.
Jesus Christ is OUR righteousness. In Him alone are we made righteous in God's eyes.
The one who purifies himself, an ongoing action, is by definition not pure in and of himself, or to use John's words, “If we claim that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves, and the truth is not in us.” (1Jo 1:8, EMTV)