My Socialism defined

Yakuda

Well-known member
No you won't. Because they can hide it just as easily as a capitalist sitting in his office. Especially when the folks in said government conspire together to hide it and reap the benefits. You are idealistic and clueless.
I like that the poster tacitly admits everyone is poor in socialism as it limits wealth. But as you say the only one who are "grossly rich" is the govt.
 

wiseones2cents

Well-known member
Capitalist economies will always collapse when they have leftist leeches in them who need mommy govt to take care of them. Capitalism requires the participation of adults who recognize they responsibility they have to their neighbors to be able to take care of themselves so as to minimize the burden they place on their neighbors. You could care less
Ohhhhh so capitalism failing is the leftists fault!!! You prefer the Republican old days of slavery, no woman rights, no social assistance, 7 days a week workdays! :rolleyes: That was much more sustainable right?

Those darn leftists and their freedom for slaves and women and social; assistance and Unions! Shame on them for ruining the country for white men !!!(NOTE HEAVY SARCASM)!

Man you've been drinking the capitalist kool-ade heavily!!
 

Ontos

Active member
What kind of scandal and are they being punished for it, or getting away with it like on the big stage?
Some get prosecuted, some get away with it. The point being - a small counsel is no cure for the lying and stealing that takes place in any form a man made government...

Exactly. If you look at how their wealth has exploded after they left the gold standard, you will REALLY understand the extend of the theft of the people. Using that fiat money they created out of thin air.
Read all this again:
You: History has shown that the more money, the more corruption. Why? The money is used to bribe and tempt people.
Me: And that wont happen with your "regulators" who have the power to "create money", right?
You: Exactly...

The point here is that your regulators will succumb to that same corruption and bribery and temptation will be just as rampant as it is now.
 

wiseones2cents

Well-known member
Where did say that? Oh that's right I NEVER DID! This is why talking to people like you is fruitless because no one can compete with the voices in your heads.
You said I think Angels run the government. And I said who do you think runs capitalism? SATAN himself.. Keep worshipping at the altar of capitalism!
 

wiseones2cents

Well-known member
No you won't. Because they can hide it just as easily as a capitalist sitting in his office. Especially when the folks in said government conspire together to hide it and reap the benefits. You are idealistic and clueless.
Who is they? LOL> They can't hide anything. The only reason they hide it now is because the elitists cover for them. How on earth are even off shore tax free havens even legal in capitalism?LOL
 

Yakuda

Well-known member
Ohhhhh so capitalism failing is the leftists fault!!! You prefer the Republican old days of slavery, no woman rights, no social assistance, 7 days a week workdays! :rolleyes: That was much more sustainable right?

Those darn leftists and their freedom for slaves and women and social; assistance and Unions! Shame on them for ruining the country for white men !!!(NOTE HEAVY SARCASM)!

Man you've been drinking the capitalist kool-ade heavily!!
Those have nothing to do with capitalism. The fact remains in order to support the socialist Ponzi scheme of social security money is taken from me that I will be er get back. Some people call that stealing but not a socialist.

You've been brainwashed
 

Yakuda

Well-known member
You said I think Angels run the government. And I said who do you think runs capitalism? SATAN himself.. Keep worshipping at the altar of capitalism!
I dont worship capitalism but you sure do love you some socialism which has failed everywhere it has been tired
 

wiseones2cents

Well-known member
I like that the poster tacitly admits everyone is poor in socialism as it limits wealth. But as you say the only one who are "grossly rich" is the govt.
I never said everyone is poor in socialism, since there are NO poor people in a socialist system. Neither is the government "grossly rich", It levels out the playing field. Making valleys high and hills low. Hint hint.
 

Yakuda

Well-known member
I dont worship capitalism but you sure do love you some socialism which has failed everywhere it has been tired.



I never said everyone is poor in socialism, since there are NO poor people in a socialist system. Neither is the government "grossly rich", It levels out the playing field. Making valleys high and hills low. Hint hint.
You said it limits wealth. No wonder you think socialism is good.
 

Gondwanaland

Well-known member
Who is they?
literally anyone in the government who wants more money for themselves
LOL> They can't hide anything.
yes, they can, because they control the books and the money.
The only reason they hide it now is because the elitists cover for them. How on earth are even off shore tax free havens even legal in capitalism?LOL
More nonsense. The "elites" WILL EXIST IN YOUR FANTASY WORLD TOO.
 

glenlogie

Well-known member
literally anyone in the government who wants more money for themselves

yes, they can, because they control the books and the money.

More nonsense. The "elites" WILL EXIST IN YOUR FANTASY WORLD TOO.
i noticed a few days ago, he put himself in the elites category when he said he would take care of people. Good thing is he does not want to expend the effort. He admits to being lazy.
 

wiseones2cents

Well-known member
Some get prosecuted, some get away with it. The point being - a small counsel is no cure for the lying and stealing that takes place in any form a man made government...
Therefore according to you. Big government is bad, small government is bad, so what do you propose? No government? LMAO!



Read all this again:
You: History has shown that the more money, the more corruption. Why? The money is used to bribe and tempt people.
Me: And that wont happen with your "regulators" who have the power to "create money", right?
You: Exactly...

The point here is that your regulators will succumb to that same corruption and bribery and temptation will be just as rampant as it is now.
Exactly. As in that wont happen in my system. Certainly not on the scale it happens in capitalism.

If the government has access to making money, How will he be bribed and tempted by the elites? What can the elites give him that he cant already have?
 

wiseones2cents

Well-known member
Those have nothing to do with capitalism. The fact remains in order to support the socialist Ponzi scheme of social security money is taken from me that I will be er get back. Some people call that stealing but not a socialist.

You've been brainwashed
We are talking about the republicans and democrats. You seem to blame all bad economics on democrats. When the problem is and has always been capitalism.

Social security is a ponzi scheme. Just like capitalism is dependent on growth at the bottom of the pyramid structure(to pay the debt it incurs).

In my socialism. It is NOT a ponzi scheme. Your social security is a right and people don't even have to pay into it!
 

wiseones2cents

Well-known member
literally anyone in the government who wants more money for themselves

In a world as corrupt as it is now, people still get caught. It wouldnt be so easy in a less corrupt world with, less money to bribe to cover their tracks.

yes, they can, because they control the books and the money.

There would have to be collusion among the entire government and people would surely catch on. And these people in government wouldnt be people groomed to give speeches and serve the elites, like the case is now.

More nonsense. The "elites" WILL EXIST IN YOUR FANTASY WORLD TOO.
No they wont. I've done the math and have thought it all out very carefully. In every revolution the Elite, gets the boot. The trick is to then limit power so elites cannot form again.
 

wiseones2cents

Well-known member
i noticed a few days ago, he put himself in the elites category when he said he would take care of people. Good thing is he does not want to expend the effort. He admits to being lazy.
I put myself in the elites category? These posters cannot debate so they resort to nonsense.lol
 

Gondwanaland

Well-known member
In a world as corrupt as it is now, people still get caught. It wouldnt be so easy in a less corrupt world with, less money to bribe to cover their tracks.
It would be even MORE easy.
There would have to be collusion among the entire government
thats how socialism has gone every single time.....
and people would surely catch on. And these people in government wouldnt be people groomed to give speeches and serve the elites, like the case is now.
And if they did catch on, then what?

And again you mention the 'elites'. I refer you back to my previous statement.
No they wont. I've done the math and have thought it all out very carefully. In every revolution the Elite, gets the boot. The trick is to then limit power so elites cannot form again.
You haven't done any math. Any "elites" that get the boot will be supplanted by new "elites" from the incoming group
 

wiseones2cents

Well-known member
It would be even MORE easy.

care to elaborate?
thats how socialism has gone every single time.....
How many democratic socialist countries can you name? The answer? None.

And if they did catch on, then what?
We punish them severely.

And again you mention the 'elites'. I refer you back to my previous statement.

Not following???

You haven't done any math. Any "elites" that get the boot will be supplanted by new "elites" from the incoming group
Not necessarily. Since no one will have the gross wealth that exists in capitalism.
 

glenlogie

Well-known member
care to elaborate?

How many democratic socialist countries can you name? The answer? None.


We punish them severely.



Not following???


Not necessarily. Since no one will have the gross wealth that exists in capitalism.
So in your system everyone exists at a subsistence level.

Is that how you are living now?
 
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