Mysterious Ruins

DrDavidT

Member
since you, (so far all respondents) are being insulting I will find someone else to talk to. I have no time for those who are not going to believe and are only here to cause trouble.
 

Hypatia_Alexandria

Active member
since you, (so far all respondents) are being insulting I will find someone else to talk to. I have no time for those who are not going to believe and are only here to cause trouble.
Your books and your posts belie your vaunted credentials. I would also note that the Bible does have something to say about bearing false witness.
 

DrDavidT

Member
For Christians, I have made a new thread where an honest discussion can be had. There is no reason why any member should be allowed to be subjected to such sinful treatment on a Christian website.
 

Hypatia_Alexandria

Active member
For Christians, I have made a new thread where an honest discussion can be had. There is no reason why any member should be allowed to be subjected to such sinful treatment on a Christian website.
Those who make vaunted boasts about their academic credentials should be able to write in a manner that befits their alleged level of education.
 

DrDavidT

Member
Those who make vaunted boasts about their academic credentials should be able to write in a manner that befits their alleged level of education.
Amazing how you accuse me of doing any such thing. That is your assumption which is erroneous and very mistaken. Placing a title in front of one's name is not boasting but a right that can be exercised without the consent of those who disagree with my beliefs. You are not an authority I have to answer to so stop acting like one.

Learn to focus on the topic and the content, not the unimportant points that you use to close your ears and minds to the truth.
 

The Pixie

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.... Placing a title in front of one's name is not boasting but a right that can be exercised without the consent of those who disagree with my beliefs. You are not an authority I have to answer to so stop acting like one.
The issue is whether you think you have the right to call yourself doctor because you bought a doctorate for $14.99.

Anyone with a real doctorate - that is, one awarded by an accredited university after three or more years of research that culminated in the writing of a thesis - would understand the importance of presenting evidence to support your claims.

In contrast, someone without a real doctorate might think it reasonable to refuse to support his arguments, and simply refuse to engage with those who disagree with him.

Learn to focus on the topic and the content, not the unimportant points that you use to close your ears and minds to the truth.
Great idea.

Present your evidence for your claim with regards to the pyramids: "The pre-flood world civilization built them".
 

Hypatia_Alexandria

Active member
Amazing how you accuse me of doing any such thing. That is your assumption which is erroneous and very mistaken.
A qualified academic does not write as you do.
Placing a title in front of one's name is not boasting
Oh indeed. There are sites online where, for a fee, anyone can purchase a doctorate. There are also unaccredited degree mills that will churn out alleged Ph.Ds.

However, that does not give the individual who has availed themselves of the services of such organisations any competence in the discipline in which they feign academic expertise.

I noted on your other thread that you have quote mined two serious academics in your book on "archaeology". That observation is premised on what Amazon will permit me to view of your book.

I suspect that you have done likewise with the works of various accredited academics. I have a suspicious mind!;)

However, citing those authors [even as quote mines] permits the inclusion of their works in you bibliography thereby suggesting [to the sort of readership works such as yours attract] that you are actually familiar with the work of such scholars.

You are not an authority
You know nothing of my background.
Learn to focus on the topic and the content.
Who, in your opinion, constructed "the Egyptian pyramids and Sphinx" ?
 
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J regia

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Not many people know about them but there are plenty in existence around the world. Of course, the secular scientists, archaeologist or researcher does not get to the truth because all ancient manuscripts describing those site were lost in Noah's flood.

Then the Egyptian pyramids and Sphinx were probably constructed during the pre flood world not by the Egyptians
Do you believe that the pyramids were constructed by extraterrestrial beings as hypothesized by Erich von Daniken?
 

J regia

Well-known member
No not at all. The Bible gives us clues about the nature, the intelligence and the attitude of the pre flood world. They were well equipped to build every mysterious ruin.
And presumably that's why they weren't drowned with most of Noah's family, since they weren't living in the flooded area, as were Noah's two brothers, Jabal and Jubal (Gen 4:20-21).
 

J regia

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The Bible gives us clues about the nature, the intelligence and the attitude of the pre flood world. They were well equipped to build every mysterious ruin.
And how did extra-terrestrial beings tip over the 20,000 ton stair case they made in Peru?
 

DrDavidT

Member
And presumably that's why they weren't drowned with most of Noah's family, since they weren't living in the flooded area, as were Noah's two brothers, Jabal and Jubal (Gen 4:20-21).
There is no point in talking to you as you do not know the Bible and use it in a way that is not truthful. Here is genesis 4:20-21

20 Adah gave birth to Jabal; he was the father of those who live in tents and raise livestock. 21 His brother’s name was Jubal; he was the father of all who play stringed instruments and pipes

That is the line of Cain you are referring to and not the line of Seth whence Noah came. Your second post make sno sense since I did not say I believed aliens did it. I know about the upside down staircase and ithat was the result of the flood, an earthquake or something else associated with the flood.
 

J regia

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Here is genesis 4:20-21
That is the line of Cain you are referring to and not the line of Seth whence Noah came.
The genealogy in Gen 5, however, includes the genealogy in Gen 4 with minor changes in order and spelling.
Thus Cainan=Cain, Mahalaleel=Mehujael, Jared=Irad, Enoch=Enoch, Methuselah=Methusael, Lamech =Lamech.
Therefore the first name (ie the adam) in the Gen 4 genealogy is the grandson of the first name listed in the Gen 5 genealogy.

Gen 4 says that three of Noah's brothers were Tubal-Cain, Jabal & Jubal and a sister's name was Naamah.

The bible clearly says that the particular flood which drowned most of Noah's family was only 15 cubits high and had no effect on a nearby olive tree from which Noah's pet bird plucked a leaf since it was growing outside the flooded area which stretched to the horizon.

And since Gen 4:20-21 says that Jabal was the father of all tent dwellers and Jubal was the father of all musicians, then obviously they were living outside the flooded area since they weren't drowned with their grandparents (Gen 5:27) and their widowed mother (Gen 5:31) and their aunts & uncles & cousins (Gen 5:26) and their other brothers & sisters & families (Gen 5:30) and Noah's other children & grandchildren born before and after Mrs Noah gave birth to triplets at aged 500 "years" old (Gen 5:32).

Hope that helps.
 

Mr Laurier

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For Christians, I have made a new thread where an honest discussion can be had. There is no reason why any member should be allowed to be subjected to such sinful treatment on a Christian website.
This, is where you shed that last remnants of credibility.
So MR David T. Your posting style reminds me of someone who used to post sporadically in the old CARM boards.
Same preachy nonsense.
Same arrogant and condescending way of sneering down at anyone who challenged your ego.
Was it you?
 
Doesn't change the fact that the KJV clearly says that the flood which drowned most of Noah's family was only 15 cubits high, which is why it had no effect on a nearby olive tree growing outside the flooded area.

Trees can be submerged underwater for a period of time without losing their leaves. The water subsided revealing the olive tree with its leaves still intact.

Scientists uncover a 60,000-year-old forest underwater and think its preserved trees

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/07/us/ancient-underwater-forest-alabama-scn-trnd/index.html ?


I give you an "F" again for failing your science class. Lol

Which is why neither Jabal or Jubal were drowned, given the bible says that they are the fathers of all the tent dwellers and all musicians (Gen 4:20-21), whereas their brother, Noah, was only a boat builder.

Which is why kangaroos and sloths are not native to the middle east despite the dishonest claims by those who misinterpret that story.

Or don't you believe what the bible actually says?

I can't discuss with you further because you failed in the comprehension department. Lol

Bye.
 
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