Mysterious Ruins

J regia

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Obviously? Why obviously? Is any mention made of the river?
If the story is based on an actual event, then that is the only feasible explanation, given that the KJV says that the flood was 15 cubits high and drained away like any other similar flood before and since.
 

Tiburon

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If the story is based on an actual event, then that is the only feasible explanation, given that the KJV says that the flood was 15 cubits high and drained away like any other similar flood before and since.
You're reading into the story details that are not there. The flood being 15 cubits above the mountain tops is just as feasible. Especially since we are talking about a story which has a very loose relationship with reality.
 

J regia

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You're reading into the story details that are not there. The flood being 15 cubits above the mountain tops is just as feasible. Especially since we are talking about a story which has a very loose relationship with reality.
Doesn't change the fact that the KJV clearly says that the flood height was 15 cubits, and DOES NOT say that the highest hills or mountains were covered by 15 cubits.
 

Tiburon

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Doesn't change the fact that the KJV clearly says that the flood height was 15 cubits, and DOES NOT say that the highest hills or mountains were covered by 15 cubits.
Genesis
19 And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered.
20 Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered.

So either the waters prevailed 15 cubits above the mountains or the highest mountain was less that 15 cubits high.
 

J regia

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Genesis
19 And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered.
20 Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered.

So either the waters prevailed 15 cubits above the mountains or the highest mountain was less that 15 cubits high.
Since the bible clearly says that the flood was 15 cubits high, then the highest hills/mountains in the flooded area were therefore less than 15 cubits higher than the normal water level, given that it clearly doesn't say that the flood covered the highest hills by 15 cubits.
 

Mr Laurier

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A great flood ravaged the valley of China. All the farm land was inundated. All the towns and cities were swept away. The survivors huddled in the high hills. Soaked by rain, and beaten by wind, they grew hungry. A scholar named Yu, took up grass, and wove a large basket, which he filled with rocks and soil. He set the basket in the water, and the current swept it away. So he made another basket, and ropes. He secured the basket so the current could not carry it away. And it stood. The people marveled, and soon joined in helping Yu. In time a great levy was built.
Yu tamed the great flood, and all the people declared hm the first true emperor. But it was by his leading and directing of the whole of the people, that Yu was able save China. And woe to he who forgets that the greatest wealth of the land is not in gold and silver... but in people.
 

Tiburon

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Since the bible clearly says that the flood was 15 cubits high, then the highest hills/mountains in the flooded area were therefore less than 15 cubits higher than the normal water level, given that it clearly doesn't say that the flood covered the highest hills by 15 cubits.
Where are you getting this 'normal water level' from. If you want to be pedantic then the Bible makes no mention of 'normal water level'.
 

J regia

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Where are you getting this 'normal water level' from. If you want to be pedantic then the Bible makes no mention of 'normal water level'.
Presumably the author of the story measured the level of the water with a river height gauge as shown in the photo of various flood heights of a nearby river. Or perhaps he/she simply marked the height of the flood on a nearby tree.
 
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J regia

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Presumably! That is the point. you are presuming a lot of things that are not in evidence.
So how else would the author have measured the flood height?
And what relevance is it to the fact that the KJV and Hebrew bible clearly say that the flood height was 15 cubits?
Or do you just want to be pedantic?

Or is that story just an imaginative fantasy?
 
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