Mysterious Ruins

Challenger007

Challenger007

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The biblical story may have been inadvertently exaggerated. Well, you know how parents tell their children bedtime stories, some add something to make it more interesting for the child to listen. After all, biblical events were also transmitted orally, because writing was not widespread. And if the story is passed down from generation to generation, then some facts may be distorted by the narrator or not so understood by the listener. Ultimately, there is a high probability of misrepresentation. I would even say that this probability is 99.9%.
 
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AprilRose

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J regia said:
And that's why the bible says that the flood which drowned most of Noah's family (Gen 5:26-32) had no effect on a nearby olive tree growing outside the flooded area from which a leaf was plucked by Noah's pet bird. And why two of Noah's brothers and their families weren't drowned (Gen 4:20-21) since they were presumably living outside the flooded area.
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But, still you're wrong and I don't agree with your assessment with regards to the depth. No mountains are 24ft high.
 
Mr Laurier

Mr Laurier

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AprilRose said:
But, still you're wrong and I don't agree with your assessment with regards to the depth. No mountains are 24ft high.
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Try thinking of it as a cute story told by primitive desert tribesmen who had never seen a boat, but had heard of them. They thought every rocky outcrop was a mountain.
They thought the whole world was a flat-ish disk that rests on pillars, and is only a few weeks walk across. And the sky was a huge bronze bowl over top of the world.
 
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J regia

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AprilRose said:
But, still you're wrong and I don't agree with your assessment with regards to the depth. No mountains are 24ft high.
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Where does the bible say that the high hills or "mountains" in the flooded area weren't less than 15 cubits high? And where does the bible define what the word "mountains" is and that it's not just a synonym for "high hills"?

And where does the KJV or Hebrew bible say that the flood depth wasn't 15 cubits, given that Gen 7:20 clearly says that the waters rose 15 cubits, and doesn't say that the high hills were covered by 15 cubits? Or don't you believe what the bible actually says?

19 And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered.

20 Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered.

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AprilRose

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J regia said:
Where does the bible say that the high hills or "mountains" in the flooded area weren't less than 15 cubits high? And where does the bible define what the word "mountains" is and that it's not just a synonym for "high hills"?

And where does the KJV or Hebrew bible say that the flood depth wasn't 15 cubits, given that Gen 7:20 clearly says that the waters rose 15 cubits, and doesn't say that the high hills were covered by 15 cubits? Or don't you believe what the bible actually says?

19 And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered.

20 Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered.

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I'm sorry to tell you that your comprehension skills of that particular verse is a total failure. A lot of posters here have pointed out your errors.

It is not difficult to understand that the mountains were covered by water at 24feet above its peak.

Did you fail science when you were in school?
 
CrowCross

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AprilRose said:
I'm sorry to tell you that your comprehension skills of that particular verse is a total failure. A lot of posters here have pointed out your errors.

It is not difficult to understand that the mountains were covered by water at 24feet above its peak.

Did you fail science when you were in school?
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J regia seems to be in the KJV only camp.
 
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J regia

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AprilRose said:
I'm sorry to tell you that your comprehension skills of that particular verse is a total failure. A lot of posters here have pointed out your errors.

It is not difficult to understand that the mountains were covered by water at 24feet above its peak.

Did you fail science when you were in school?
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I'm sorry to tell you that your comprehension skills of that particular verse is a total failure. And that's your choice if you don't believe what the bible actually says. Are you familiar with the English language, or did you fail that when you were in school? Either way, it doesn't change the fact that anyone who is actually familiar with the English language can clearly see that the KJV says that the flood which drowned most of Noah's family (Gen 5:26-32) was only 15 cubits high and drained away like every other similar flood before and since. Which is why the bible says that the flood didn't affect an olive tree or two of Noah's brothers and their families (Gen 4:20-21) since they were outside the flooded area.

19 And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered.

20 Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered.

And that's your choice if you want to believe in magic and fairies and that about 3800 years ago the ocean level magically rose at the rate of SIX INCHES PER MINUTE for forty days and covered Mt Everest with an extra 4.5 billion cubic kilometres of water which magically disappeared within a year, and that Noah's two brothers and their families were living on top of Mt Everest, given that there is about 1.4 billion cubic kilometres of water on Earth.
 
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J regia

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AprilRose said:
I'm sorry to tell you that your comprehension skills of that particular verse is a total failure. A lot of posters here have pointed out your errors.

It is not difficult to understand that the mountains were covered by water at 24feet above its peak.

Did you fail science when you were in school?
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Do you believe that about 3800 years ago Earth looked like this?
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If so, how and where did the extra 4.5 billion cubic kilometres of water magically come from, and how and where did it magically disappear to within 100 years?
And do you have any evidence to support your hypothesis that kangaroos and sloths are therefore native to the middle east?
Or is your personal interpretation of that story just an unrealistic imaginative fantasy?
 
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En Hakkore

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J regia said:
Do you believe that about 3800 years ago Earth looked like this?
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Do you believe the ancient authors of the Genesis flood narrative thought their world was a sphere orbiting the sun, itself a mere spec of sand in a vast universe? Of course not. Importing contemporary knowledge about geology and astronomy into an ancient text results in misinterpretation such as you keep peddling here week after week. I'm still waiting for you to address my criticisms of your local flood theory in posts 84 and 87...

Kind regards,
Jonathan
 
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J regia

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En Hakkore said:
Do you believe the ancient authors of the Genesis flood narrative thought their world was a sphere orbiting the sun, itself a mere spec of sand in a vast universe? Of course not. Importing contemporary knowledge about geology and astronomy into an ancient text results in misinterpretation such as you keep peddling here week after week. I'm still waiting for you to address my criticisms of your local flood theory in posts 84 and 87...

Kind regards,
Jonathan
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So what misinterpretation are you referring to, given that the bible clearly says that the flood which drowned most of Noah's family was only 15 cubits high?

And why on Earth would I believe what the biblical writers wrote, that the Earth is a flat immoveable disc with ends and corners and foundations (eg Matt 4:8 Isaiah 40:22 Job 38:15 Psalm 104:5), and that the universe is a geocentric dome-shaped tent attached to the circle of the horizon (eg Isaiah 40:22 Eccl 1:5)?

I'm still waiting for you to address my criticisms of your global flood theory.
 
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