From your source: “The researchers also found that people who had SARS-CoV-2 previously and then received one dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccine were more highly protected against reinfection than those who once had the virus and were still unvaccinated.”I am wondering as a distant medical outsider, why you have no medical sources.
They show their source.
AAAS
www.sciencemag.org
Natural Immunity 13x More Effective Than Vaccines
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Bonnie
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I have read that, too. But then, one must first be infected with covid-19, and survive it, to acquire antibodies--which can be dangerous. The disease can go from mild to severe in a few days.
Bonnie
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Bonnie
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Yes, it does--so, should we all go out and try to get infected by covid-19, and hope that we don't wind up in the hospital, on a respirator or ventilator, struggling to breathe? Especially since many hospitals in some areas, especially in the South, are being overwhelmed with many patients with covid-19?I am wondering as a distant medical outsider, why you have no medical sources.
They show their source.
AAAS
This is exactly right. We currently have over 600,000 covid dead, virtually all of whom were unvaccinated.
If the idea is that unfettered spread of this virus would create an immune population, that would be at the expense of a huge death count.
OTOH the vaccine has been effective in reducing serious disease and death, and RW objections to the vaccines make no sense.
TeabagSalad
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I believe something like this has been suggested before. But, there are significant arguments against any change as such changes would negatively affect either fast or spin bowling (depending on what gets changed). In general such changes make it either too easy or too hard to get an LBW and that removes some of the tactics of cricket, so best leave things as they are.
Simpletruther
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If you are young and healthy the vaccine offers little advantage.
False. The average age of covid patients has declined by over 20 years, and many young people, and even children are dying.
Simpletruther
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Show me the numbers! What is the rate of deaths for 20 year olds from covid.
CrowCross
Super Member
I noticed all those in favor of loading their bodies up with spike proteins don't seem to have the ability to defend their position...(maybe that's because the proteins spikes have passed through the blood brain barrier and are effecting them mentally)....so all they can do is attack the author Tyler Durden rather than actually speaking about what he has said. Why is that???
Harry Leggs
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CrowCross
Super Member
It seems that the vaccinated people are beginning to take the lead of getting covid. It's a very sad statistic but one that has to be put out there.
Don't take the booster.
Thistle
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"This study demonstrated that natural immunity confers longer lasting and stronger protection against infection, symptomatic disease and hospitalization caused by the Delta variant of SARS-CoV-2, compared to the BNT162b2 two-dose vaccine-induced immunity. Individuals who were both previously infected with SARS-CoV-2 and given a single dose of the vaccine gained additional protection against the Delta variant."
It's amazing that this is become so politicized that you can get otherwise rational people to behave completely irrationally. What fault do you find with this study?
inertia
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The Perimeter states:
"This time, the data leave little doubt that natural infection truly is the better option for protection against the delta variant, despite the fact that the US won't acknowledge the already infected as having antibodies protecting them from the virus."
However, Science reports:
"...other researchers stress that deliberate infection among unvaccinated people would put them at significant risk of severe disease and death, or the lingering, significant symptoms of what has been dubbed Long Covid. The study shows the benefits of natural immunity, but “doesn’t take into account what this virus does to the body to get to that point,” says Marion Pepper, an immunologist at the University of Washington, Seattle. ...And the 13-fold increased risk of infection in the same analysis was based on just 238 infections in the vaccinated population, less than 1.5% of the more than 16,000 people,..."
TBD on "truly better"
Bonnie
Super Member
Young and healthy can get the disease and die from it. Not as much as the elderly, but they can still get it--and die.
Gus Bovona
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So when I put a Twinkie IN my salad, am I doing it wrong?
Harry Leggs
Super Member
VAERS and its euro counterpart combined with the overall fatality rate says the jab is not worth it. Not needed.
This is opinion from for profits. Fear mongering. Many of us remain unaffected by COVID and far more affected by all the restrictions, lockdowns etc.
Yawn.
Who is keeping track of all the billionaires this is making and all the kickbacks to politicians? How many people have either died or been hospitalized with a four-day window of getting the jab? If the overall survivability rate is around 98% what was the survivability rate of HIV/AIDS infections back in the 80s and early 90s? Perhaps 1%? How did a monkey virus make its way into humans in the first place? How bout polio vaccines>>>
Most who had it was mild to no symptoms. Many did not know they were sick until a questionable test told them so. The BS meter is off the charts on all this.
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Simpletruther
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Of course. They can die from vaccine as well.
Simpletruther
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No.
'This Ends The Debate' - Israeli Study Shows Natural Immunity 13x More Effective Than Vaccines At Stopping Delta — News From The Perimeter
( Tyler Durden ) Dr. Anthony Fauci and the rest of President Biden's COVID advisors have been proven wrong about "the science" of COVID vaccines yet again. After telling Americans that vaccines offer better protection than natural infection, a new study out of Israel suggests the oppositewww.newsfromtheperimeter.com
So, any questions?