Natural Immunity 13x More Effective Than Vaccines

balshan

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Left wingers struggle to research people they can't stand but don't do medical research

Has Pfizer ever been found guilty in a court of law for scientific fraud? Yes
Has Pfizer ever been found guilty of bribing doctors? Yes

Has pfizer ever been found guilty by a jury of racketeering fraud? Yes.
You wouldn't know a left winger or a right winger even if you fell over them.

Wrong when I found out about a condition I had, I knew the treatments for it and the side effects etc. I researched it and then I questioned both my gp and my specialist to make sure I understood everything.

Pzifer being convicted of fraud does not relate to covid vax:

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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Wednesday, September 2, 2009

Justice Department Announces Largest Health Care Fraud Settlement in Its History​

Pfizer to Pay $2.3 Billion for Fraudulent Marketing​

WASHINGTON – American pharmaceutical giant Pfizer Inc. and its subsidiary Pharmacia & Upjohn Company Inc. (hereinafter together "Pfizer") have agreed to pay $2.3 billion, the largest health care fraud settlement in the history of the Department of Justice, to resolve criminal and civil liability arising from the illegal promotion of certain pharmaceutical products, the Justice Department announced today.
Pharmacia & Upjohn Company has agreed to plead guilty to a felony violation of the Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act for misbranding Bextra with the intent to defraud or mislead. Bextra is an anti-inflammatory drug that Pfizer pulled from the market in 2005. Under the provisions of the Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act, a company must specify the intended uses of a product in its new drug application to FDA. Once approved, the drug may not be marketed or promoted for so-called "off-label" uses – i.e., any use not specified in an application and approved by FDA. Pfizer promoted the sale of Bextra for several uses and dosages that the FDA specifically declined to approve due to safety concerns. The company will pay a criminal fine of $1.195 billion, the largest criminal fine ever imposed in the United States for any matter. Pharmacia & Upjohn will also forfeit $105 million, for a total criminal resolution of $1.3 billion.



They are not the only company covicted of bribery and it does not say much about doctors. So what you have proved is one cannot trust drug companies or doctors.

The allegation that doctors are being bribed by various pharmaceutical companies to prescribe their branded product is no secret. In fact, the sham which has been around for years has neither been rejected by doctors nor denied by the companies – which makes one ponder all the more.

A letter dated July 8, addressed to the Minister of Health under the letterhead of the Pharma Promoters Association laid bare information regarding the stakes Indian pharmaceutical companies have in the racket.

The letter states that immediate action should be undertaken to implement the National Drug Policy because doctors were in the business of collecting money from companies to prescribe their medications, ranging from Rs. 200 000 to Rs. 1 million per product per annum.



So from my understanding no company has any understanding of ethics at all. I mean drug companies and chemical companies are not the moral compass one should follow.

So that does not make the covid vaccines the devil as some make out. Your post means absolutely nothing and in no way relates to my post.
 

inertia

Super Member
Einstein seems to have failed at some things, one example is the college entrance exam to enter the Swiss Polytechnic. He was excellent in Maths and science but only moderate in other areas. Yet he went on to do great things.

...

...and then there were great men of old, men of renown. Some might call them Giants.


 

Bonnie

Super Member
I think the difference is those that listen to Mike Adams, Tucker Carlson, and other folks actually do the research.

Yes. Like ME. I researched them BOTH and found them both to be far right fanatics, spouting nonsense, especially Adams. The latter spouts ridiculous conspiracy theories--that the vaccines used on black women are laced with HCG, to make them infertile, and that the NBA and China are in cahoots in harvesting body organs...these were actually on that hour plus long program I listened to a few months ago, and linked to on here. I even gave the minute marks for some of his comments.

And his NN is the site that had that fake news story about a 2-year old who supposedly died from the second vaccine dose--at a time when trials for children that young had not even begun!

I am supposed to get good, honest, reliable info about covid and the vaccine from THIS guy? :rolleyes:

Personally I've noticed Tucker is about a month late on what he reports. I've often said...'bout time you're saying that Tucker. Maybe Tucker is waiting for positive conformation.
As with Mike Adams his info comes from doctors, scientist, virologist etc. He often questions what he hears. But for some reason you like to attack the platform rather than what is actually being said.
No, I DID critique what he said on that one segment Magdalena asked me to watch months ago--and right away, I saw problems with his spiel, which I pointed out. I also criticized what he said about General Milley...I criticized TUCKER, not some "platform."
So why should I believe Tucker, when he calls the highest ranking officer in the country a "stupid pig" and only showed a snippet of Milley's interview? And is known for exaggeration and sensationalism, as even his own lawyers admit?
You have no medical credentials. That is why outsiders hide behind so many cut and pastes they don't understand.

But I do understand most of them, if written in layman's terms--as the CHOP article was. I am reasonably educated.
Snopes is popular with the lower rungs of education.

Prove it. But I mostly use Reuters,, Fact Check,, and AP Factcheck.

But then, one could say the same about Gateway Pundit and Natural News...
Dirty people.

Oh? Talking about Hoft? Who is being sued for misidentifyibg the man on his blog who drove his car into that rally in Virginia 4 years ago, killing one person? OR are you referring to Alex Jones, who cursed and swore a lot, dropping F- bombs all over the place in that link on here? Or Tucker Carlson, for calling Gen. Milley a "stupid pig"?

Yes, very dirty...
Every time left wingers click on snopes, he makes a dime and enough of those, he can go to the truck stop and pick up a lot lizard.
Prove it.

98,000 dollars he embezzled for chasing >>>>>>>>.
I read about what happened. Not quite what you wrote...


Nothing about financing Mikkelson's pick-ups at truck stops...

But then, I think I only used Snopes on here once, months ago. I don't recall anyone else on here using them. I actually prefer Reuters, Fact Check, and AP Fact Check. So, why do you keep bringing up Snopes?
 
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Bonnie

Super Member
Holy smokes...the mask didn't work. The airflow went right through the fabric.

Then again my cigar smoke test told me that.
You didn't look at it closely enough....big difference between the air flow WITH a properly worn mask and without it. One would have to be willfully blind not to see the difference!

But again, masks are designed to be a barrier to prevent droplets that contain the virus from escaping--NOT to cut off air flow. Oxygen and CO2 molecules are far smaller than saliva and nasal mucous droplets.
 

Bonnie

Super Member
Smart bloke, that husband.

Of course, you'll let us know if he suddenly grows a third eye or something from having his DNA re-written, as some people claim, won't you?
I will keep an eye out for anything like that. :) I hope I can get a booster in November, which will be the earliest I would be eligible. I need to make sure I stay healthy so my husband stays healthy.
 

Furion

Well-known member
I pray you make the right decision for you. I think the nurses should be applauded for their hard work and bravery. I do not understand our society that puts more value on sports people than real heroes eg nurses, doctors, firemen, teachers, event the cleaners in hospitals these days.

I will add that in this country it was a disgrace that nurses and others were warned not to wear their outfits in public. All I can say is what is wrong with people.
Try to be a cop sometime
 

CrowCross

Super Member
Yes. Like ME. I researched them BOTH and found them both to be far right fanatics, spouting nonsense, especially Adams. The latter spouts ridiculous conspiracy theories--that the vaccines used on black women are laced with HCG, to make them infertile, and that the NBA and China are in cahoots in harvesting body organs...these were actually on that hour plus long program I listened to a few months ago, and linked to on here. I even gave the minute marks for some of his comments.

And his NN is the site that had that fake news story about a 2-year old who supposedly died from the second vaccine dose--at a time when trials for children that young had not even begun!

I am supposed to get good, honest, reliable info about covid and the vaccine from THIS guy? :rolleyes:


No, I DID critique what he said on that one segment Magdalena asked me to watch months ago--and right away, I saw problems with his spiel, which I pointed out. I also criticized what he said about General Milley...I criticized TUCKER, not some "platform."
So why should I believe Tucker, when he calls the highest ranking officer in the country a "stupid pig" and only showed a snippet of Milley's interview? And is known for exaggeration and sensationalism, as even his own lawyers admit?


But I do understand most of them, if written in layman's terms--as the CHOP article was. I am reasonably educated.


Prove it. But I mostly use Reuters,, Fact Check,, and AP Factcheck.

But then, one could say the same about Gateway Pundit and Natural News...


Oh? Talking about Hoft? Who is being sued for misidentifyibg the man on his blog who drove his car into that rally in Virginia 4 years ago, killing one person? OR are you referring to Alex Jones, who cursed and swore a lot, dropping F- bombs all over the place in that link on here? Or Tucker Carlson, for calling Gen. Milley a "stupid pig"?

Yes, very dirty...

Prove it.


I read about what happened. Not quite what you wrote...


Nothing about financing Mikkelson's pick-ups at truck stops...

But then, I think I only used Snopes on here once, months ago. I don't recall anyone else on here using them. I actually prefer Reuters, Fact Check, and AP Fact Check. So, why do you keep bringing up Snopes?
Then stick with cuomo lemon.
 

Bonnie

Super Member
I have my framed college diploma, with a BA from the University of Georgia, with my degree in Journalism, hanging on a wall in our bonus room upstairs.

See, I don't mind listing my credentials...
 

Harry Leggs

Super Member
I don't recall reading that the protein spikes are found in salivary glands or sweat glands....

About 2:40 in.

“We thought the spike protein was a great target antigen, we never knew the spike protein itself was a toxin and was a pathogenic protein. So by vaccinating people we are inadvertently inoculating them with a toxin,” Bridle said on the show
 

vibise

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About 2:40 in.

“We thought the spike protein was a great target antigen, we never knew the spike protein itself was a toxin and was a pathogenic protein. So by vaccinating people we are inadvertently inoculating them with a toxin,” Bridle said on the show
Though Bridle used the term “we” there is no indication that he was involved in any way in developing COVID-19 vaccines. Other scientists refute Bridle’s characterization of the spike protein.

“The spike protein is immunogenic, meaning it causes an immune response, but it is not a toxin,” said William Matchett, a vaccine researcher at the University of Minnesota Medical School.


The article goes on to refute other false claims made by Bridle:
Dr. Dan Kaul, an infectious disease expert at the University of Michigan, said that the vaccines have been proven safe and effective through clinical trials and the millions of people who have so far received the vaccines in the U.S.

“In terms of the spike protein itself being pathogenic in some way that’s just simply not true,” he said in response to Bridle’s claims.

In the interview, Bridle says that the spike proteins generated by the vaccines don’t stay in the shoulder muscle, but spread and are “causing so much damage in other parts of the bodies of the vaccinated.” But Dr. Adam Ratner, a pediatric infectious disease specialist at NYU Langone Health, said that vaccines are mostly concentrated at the site of injection or the local lymph nodes.

“What was said in the radio show was completely inaccurate,” Ratner said.
Bridle mentions a study of 13 health care workers that he said confirmed that the spike in protein was found in their blood. But experts say they found nothing of concern from that same study, which was conducted by researchers at Brigham and Women’s Hospital and appeared in the journal Clinical Infectious Diseases in May.

Bridle left out key details of the study, which relied on an ultrasensitive detection tool, said Matchett, of University of Minnesota.

“The spike became undetectable by 14 days after the first dose of the vaccine,” Matchett said of the study. “After the second dose, they could not detect the spike protein in the blood of any of the participants because the participants had all generated anti-spike antibodies.”
 

CrowCross

Super Member
Huh?

Deal with what I wrote, please. This comment makes no sense and has zero to do with my post.
Anybody who says there is problems with the jab..you disregard, Uou mentioned several of them in your reply...for which i said...Then stick with cuomo lemon.
 

Harry Leggs

Super Member

The article goes on to refute other false claims made by Bridle:
They are not saying any of this under oath and it is legal to lie to the public. Besides, if there is any legitimacy to the Japanese study then others will replicate it anyway. Doubtful you even got that far since you are a cheerleader for filthy rich government medical bureaucrats.
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What has been discovered by the scientific community is the spike protein on its own is almost entirely responsible for the damage to the cardiovascular system, if it gets into circulation,” Bridle told listeners.

Lab animals injected with purified spike protein into their bloodstream developed cardiovascular problems, and the spike protein was also demonstrated*** to cross the blood brain barrier and cause damage to the brain.
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Opinion absent data does not refute anything here. The lab animal part was not addressed as far as i know........

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The S1 protein of SARS-CoV-2 crosses the blood–brain barrier in mice​


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