Natural Immunity 13x More Effective Than Vaccines

Howie

Well-known member
"This study demonstrated that natural immunity confers longer lasting and stronger protection against infection, symptomatic disease and hospitalization caused by the Delta variant of SARS-CoV-2, compared to the BNT162b2 two-dose vaccine-induced immunity. Individuals who were both previously infected with SARS-CoV-2 and given a single dose of the vaccine gained additional protection against the Delta variant."​

It's amazing that this is become so politicized that you can get otherwise rational people to behave completely irrationally. What fault do you find with this study?
I was thinking the same thing. We have here at CARM, and throughout the country, a group of liberals who claim to be scientifically minded while being, at the same time, deficient in the comprehension of the English language.

This can only be God at work in them. A great delusion.
 

Fenuay

Well-known member

So, any questions?
They don't care. I worked for the hospital and was unable to be vaccinated at the time because I had COVID and couldn't get the vaccine because of bad clotting. I had to quit. They don't care that I aquired immunity from the virus itself. They only care that ALL employees are vaccinated, regardless of conditions which may prevent them from being vaccinated, or if they have had the virus. At this point I have been vaccinated. My second one is on Sept first. I don't believe it's really that necessary since I had the virus but it will enable me to get a job again, travel, and do other things that will soon require a vaccine to do. I have a feeling soon it will be required to attend college or any public school. I won't be surprised. But I also don't buy all the lies about the vaccinated shedding virus which is impossible, and the vaccine having Morgellon threads in it and all the other stuff that the alt right is spreading. If you don't want to be vaccinated that's your right, but don't avoid it because of all the lies and misinformation being spread. It's funny because friends of mine from other countries are laughing that we believe the garbage fake science being spread about the vaccine. Other countries aren't having issues because they haven't politicized it like here. So they are not scared about the vaccine harming them.
 

Electric Skeptic

Well-known member
laughing that we believe the garbage fake science being spread about the vaccine. Other countries aren't having issues because they haven't politicized it like here. So they are not scared about the vaccine harming them.
There's a special word for such people. It's "rational". A word seldom applied to the US' conservative 'Christians'.
 

Fenuay

Well-known member
Just an observation: High BP will get you before the virus does.
Wow. Comments like this are so sad and incorret. I know many, many people who died. When COVID first hit, I watched patients die alone. Their families were not permitted to come visit them. It was heartbreaking. Many of them had zero co-morbidities. Less deaths now that we have more experience with it and people are getting vaccinated and zero deaths seen here from the vaccine. High BP will not kill you before COVID. It's your right not to get vaccinated but spreading false information that hypertension will get you before COVID is not good. It's actually dangerous.
 

Fenuay

Well-known member
Exactly right. More Americans should eat a salad instead of a twinkie. India has a population of 1.3 billion people but has 200,000 less covid deaths than the US with nearly the same number of total cases.
Not right. Incorrect. Hypertension will not kill you before COVID.
 

Fenuay

Well-known member
Exactly right. More Americans should eat a salad instead of a twinkie. India has a population of 1.3 billion people but has 200,000 less covid deaths than the US with nearly the same number of total cases.
Correct about the obesity problem in America. And salads are great. I have found that the more healthy I eat the healthier I crave. I used to have a crappy diet. But now the majority of my diet consists of vegetables both fresh and cooked, salads, fish, and meat in small portions. Even my skin felt different after eating so healthy for a month. I feel cleaner lol! So that is an excellent thing for Americans to do. Unfortunately a lot of people just hit the fast food and buy carbs and crap.
 

Fenuay

Well-known member
VAERS and its euro counterpart combined with the overall fatality rate says the jab is not worth it. Not needed.

This is opinion from for profits. Fear mongering. Many of us remain unaffected by COVID and far more affected by all the restrictions, lockdowns etc.


Yawn.

Who is keeping track of all the billionaires this is making and all the kickbacks to politicians? How many people have either died or been hospitalized with a four-day window of getting the jab? If the overall survivability rate is around 98% what was the survivability rate of HIV/AIDS infections back in the 80s and early 90s? Perhaps 1%? How did a monkey virus make its way into humans in the first place? How bout polio vaccines>>>

Most who had it was mild to no symptoms. Many did not know they were sick until a questionable test told them so. The BS meter is off the charts on all this.
I wish we could show all the COVID patients in the hospitals so you could see that just because the people you know are fine doesn't mean MOST people are fine.
 

preacher4truth

Well-known member
Wow. Comments like this are so sad and incorret. I know many, many people who died. When COVID first hit, I watched patients die alone. Their families were not permitted to come visit them. It was heartbreaking. Many of them had zero co-morbidities. Less deaths now that we have more experience with it and people are getting vaccinated and zero deaths seen here from the vaccine. High BP will not kill you before COVID. It's your right not to get vaccinated but spreading false information that hypertension will get you before COVID is not good. It's actually dangerous.
Relax, I wasn't mitigating people dying of Covid so your assertion is baseless and false. That you didn't get what I said isn't my fault.

And, for the record, my FIL died of Covid December 15th 2020. That, and my wife works in a Covid unit as a pharmD, so I hear about the patients and deaths daily.
 

Pierce

New Member
I was very interested in seeing how those one CARM are responding to this currant topic. Now, I am disappointed. I was hoping for more evidence of critical thinking. Some are on the right track, but overall there is a definite lack understanding and guidance.

First of all there is no evidence of the scientific method proving that any vaccine works. I am not aware of any safety studies. (Likely due to the inherent danger of shots.) The covid vaxs' are nothing like the 'traditional' ones, and therefore are completely unpredictable. The effect of vaccines are injury and death in a percentage of those taking the jab. Covid claims 2%. Critical thinking assignment: Research and determine which risk is for you.

Second, vaccines are an attempt to treat infection from an incomplete theory of infection, germ - theory. Perhaps put too simply; Pasteur proposed the best way to health is through sterilization of the world. We know this impossible for, "nature abhors a vacuum." The true way to better health is through "terrain - theory."

Lastly, why are believers entertaining the use of sorcery in the first place? Vaccines were originally pioneered to bring death and destruction. Those who cherish the teachings of Christ should not hold such values and goals. Why has there not been any Christian that has pointed out that those who participate in PHARMAKIA will not be granted entrance into the New Jerusalem?

Just so that there's no confusion, I am repeating, if you are participating in Pharmakia will not make the cut. Repeating, because it was first said by the Almighty - not me.
 

Howie

Well-known member
I was very interested in seeing how those one CARM are responding to this currant topic. Now, I am disappointed. I was hoping for more evidence of critical thinking. Some are on the right track, but overall there is a definite lack understanding and guidance.

First of all there is no evidence of the scientific method proving that any vaccine works. I am not aware of any safety studies. (Likely due to the inherent danger of shots.) The covid vaxs' are nothing like the 'traditional' ones, and therefore are completely unpredictable. The effect of vaccines are injury and death in a percentage of those taking the jab. Covid claims 2%. Critical thinking assignment: Research and determine which risk is for you.

Second, vaccines are an attempt to treat infection from an incomplete theory of infection, germ - theory. Perhaps put too simply; Pasteur proposed the best way to health is through sterilization of the world. We know this impossible for, "nature abhors a vacuum." The true way to better health is through "terrain - theory."

Lastly, why are believers entertaining the use of sorcery in the first place? Vaccines were originally pioneered to bring death and destruction. Those who cherish the teachings of Christ should not hold such values and goals. Why has there not been any Christian that has pointed out that those who participate in PHARMAKIA will not be granted entrance into the New Jerusalem?

Just so that there's no confusion, I am repeating, if you are participating in Pharmakia will not make the cut. Repeating, because it was first said by the Almighty - not me.
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Bonnie

Super Member
They don't care. I worked for the hospital and was unable to be vaccinated at the time because I had COVID and couldn't get the vaccine because of bad clotting. I had to quit. They don't care that I aquired immunity from the virus itself. They only care that ALL employees are vaccinated, regardless of conditions which may prevent them from being vaccinated, or if they have had the virus. At this point I have been vaccinated. My second one is on Sept first. I don't believe it's really that necessary since I had the virus but it will enable me to get a job again, travel, and do other things that will soon require a vaccine to do. I have a feeling soon it will be required to attend college or any public school. I won't be surprised. But I also don't buy all the lies about the vaccinated shedding virus which is impossible, and the vaccine having Morgellon threads in it and all the other stuff that the alt right is spreading. If you don't want to be vaccinated that's your right, but don't avoid it because of all the lies and misinformation being spread. It's funny because friends of mine from other countries are laughing that we believe the garbage fake science being spread about the vaccine. Other countries aren't having issues because they haven't politicized it like here. So they are not scared about the vaccine harming them.
Excellent points, Fenuay. Once again, you have shown us you can see both sides of the equation, so to speak.

So, your friends in other countries have not politicized the vaccine in their countries? Don't they get misinformation and wild ideas about the vaccine over there? They have the Internet...
 

Gondwanaland

Well-known member

So, any questions?
No surprise there, for anyone with a working brain. But these people are so obsessed with injecting that garbage into every living person, that they have been denying and demonizing natural immunity for the last year.
 

Howie

Well-known member
Not right. Incorrect. Hypertension will not kill you before COVID.
C'mon. What about those with hypertension who live through COVID and later die of hypertension, or those who have hypertension and never get COVID and die of hypertension??
 

Harry Leggs

Super Member
I wish we could show all the COVID patients in the hospitals so you could see that just because the people you know are fine doesn't mean MOST people are fine.
Yeah you wish and what are they not telling us like old people who are physical wrecks. I wish i could ask them all if it is all so terrible then why is the survive rate put out by the CDC so high? Why are they insisting on vaccinating children when they are virtually unaffected and who is paying the bill and who is profiting? The hospitals are where sick people go and i would still like to know how many died and were hospitalized within four days of the shots? Those stats should be easy enough to compile but alas it might cut into their profit margin.
 

Electric Skeptic

Well-known member
I was very interested in seeing how those one CARM are responding to this currant topic. Now, I am disappointed. I was hoping for more evidence of critical thinking. Some are on the right track, but overall there is a definite lack understanding and guidance.

First of all there is no evidence of the scientific method proving that any vaccine works. I am not aware of any safety studies. (Likely due to the inherent danger of shots.) The covid vaxs' are nothing like the 'traditional' ones, and therefore are completely unpredictable. The effect of vaccines are injury and death in a percentage of those taking the jab. Covid claims 2%. Critical thinking assignment: Research and determine which risk is for you.

Second, vaccines are an attempt to treat infection from an incomplete theory of infection, germ - theory. Perhaps put too simply; Pasteur proposed the best way to health is through sterilization of the world. We know this impossible for, "nature abhors a vacuum." The true way to better health is through "terrain - theory."

Lastly, why are believers entertaining the use of sorcery in the first place? Vaccines were originally pioneered to bring death and destruction. Those who cherish the teachings of Christ should not hold such values and goals. Why has there not been any Christian that has pointed out that those who participate in PHARMAKIA will not be granted entrance into the New Jerusalem?

Just so that there's no confusion, I am repeating, if you are participating in Pharmakia will not make the cut. Repeating, because it was first said by the Almighty - not me.
...and we have now left the runway. "No evidence...proving that any vaccine works". "...incomplete theory of infection, germ - theory". "Pasteur proposed...sterilization of the world". "Vaccines were originally pioneered to bring death and destruction". And, apparently, anybody who has ever used any medication "will not make the cut".

Nurse!
 
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