Since this thread is about "new light", will you please answer the following:a god means--has godlike qualities--God did all the powerful things through Jesus( Acts 2:22) God created all things through Jesus( Coll 1:15-16)
God is the only one with the power to do them.
All those people died and paid in full the wages of sin, they will get resurrected and given an opportunity to learn and apply Gods will during that time. Plus they could read and understand many of Gods requirements showing him they cared what he thought. Here in these last days one must know truth.
Since this thread is about "new light", will you please answer the following:
I notice that the Watchtower Society teaches that the United Nations is the “scarlet colored wild beast”. What would you do if today you found out that yesterday the Watchtower Society actually joined the United Nations, and that it agreed to “support the work of the United Nations”? Would you remain in the organization? Would joining the UN mean that the organization had been “inspired by error”
Thank you. But that's not my question. Here it is again:I already know they joined the UN for the purpose of access to their vast library. for no other reason. The bible teaches God gave men authority to rule in govt positions. And to respect their laws if not contradicting Gods laws, and respect to the leaders.
Ifs carry 0 meaning. I already know they wouldn't.Thank you. But that's not my question. Here it is again:
I notice that the Watchtower Society teaches that the United Nations is the “scarlet colored wild beast”. What would you do if today you found out that yesterday the Watchtower Society actually joined the United Nations, and that it agreed to “support the work of the United Nations”? Would you remain in the organization? Would joining the UN mean that the organization had been “inspired by error”?
Thank you for responding.Ifs carry 0 meaning. I already know they wouldn't.
They joined to get access to the library--that is all.Thank you for responding.
In 1992 people living then were like you. They "already knew" that the organization would never consider joining the United Nations, especially for such an insignificant reason as gaining access to a library (even if that were true). Can you imagine that? They had been saying for years that the United Nations was a disgusting scarlet wild beast, then all of a sudden the Society joined that "disgusting" organization.
What if you lived in 1992? Can you understand why witnesses might be upset when they found out that the Society actually agreed to support the work of the United Nations? Did the Watchtower Society really need access to that library that badly?
Was the United Nations a good organization in 1992? Did they cease being the "scarlet wild beast" in 1992? Is that why the Watchtower Society agreed to support that organization?
The 1984 Watchtower contained the following: "No, the UN is not a blessing, even though the religious clergy of Christendom and the rabbis of Jewry pray heaven’s blessing upon that organization. It is really “the image of the wild beast,” the visible political, commercial organization of “the god of this system of things,” Satan the Devil. So the UN will soon be destroyed along with that beastly organization." Watchtower 1984 Sep 15 p.15They joined to get access to the library--that is all.
For one to question Jesus' appointed teachers is the same as questioning Jesus and God-Luke 10:16.) Jw,s support no political orginazation.The 1984 Watchtower contained the following: "No, the UN is not a blessing, even though the religious clergy of Christendom and the rabbis of Jewry pray heaven’s blessing upon that organization. It is really “the image of the wild beast,” the visible political, commercial organization of “the god of this system of things,” Satan the Devil. So the UN will soon be destroyed along with that beastly organization." Watchtower 1984 Sep 15 p.15
The Watchtower Society joined the UN in 1992. When they joined they agreed to “support the work of the United Nations”, yet they also considered the United Nations to be the “scarlet-colored wild beast”, and “a worldly confederacy against Jehovah God and his dedicated Witnesses on earth.”
Let’s assume that what you say is true – that they joined in order to gain access to the UN library. Are you saying that access to a library was a good enough reason for them to join the UN?
Thank you for responding.For one to question Jesus' appointed teachers is the same as questioning Jesus and God-Luke 10:16.) Jw,s support no political orginazation.
You need ask them yourself if an answer is what you seek.
Every form of govt on earth will be destroyed by Jesus-Dan 2:44--99% will stand for their govt against Jesus at the end-Rev 16. Mislead to give support( worship) to the image of the beast.
They as well went into the Catholic Archives--an organization owned by satan as well. Not to do any service to either organization, but to seek information on facts. They came out of the archives with 100% proof that-- the spirit, water and blood are the 3 witness bearers. Catholicism translated-the Father, son and holy spirit in that bible passage. Truth is their only motive. God used the wicked to achieve his will in the bible.Thank you for responding.
I’m actually thinking more about what you think, not what the Governing Body thinks. Apparently they must have thought that it was ok to join the UN even though they believed that it was the “scarlet-colored wild beast”, and “a worldly confederacy against Jehovah God and his dedicated Witnesses on earth.”
Are you allowed to have your own opinions? What do you think? Or would you risk being disfellowshipped if you disagreed with what they did? If so, then at least I think I understand your fear, even though I don’t agree with you.
Was that a good enough reason to support the work of the United Nations, especially when they didn’t need to join the UN in order to have access to the library?They as well went into the Catholic Archives--an organization owned by satan as well. Not to do any service to either organization, but to seek information on facts. They came out of the archives with 100% proof that-- the spirit, water and blood are the 3 witness bearers. Catholicism translated-the Father, son and holy spirit in that bible passage. Truth is their only motive. God used the wicked to achieve his will in the bible.
They dont support the work of the un, they joined to get access to the vast library. They dont support Catholicism, they went in to seek truth. JW,s give 100% support to Gods kingdom.Was that a good enough reason to support the work of the United Nations, especially when they didn’t need to join the UN in order to have access to the library?
They didn't need to join to get access to the library. They had access for free.They dont support the work of the un, they joined to get access to the vast library. They dont support Catholicism, they went in to seek truth. JW,s give 100% support to Gods kingdom.
They didn't need to join to get access to the library. They had access for free.
I doubt they did.They didn't need to join to get access to the library. They had access for free.
I don't answer for Jesus' appointed teachers. They will stand alone before judgement seat. I am 100% confident they have good reason to do anything they do. You can ask them on JW.org."Since 1946, the Dag Hammarskjold Library of the United Nations Secretariat in New York has arranged for the distribution of United Nations documents and publications to users around the world through its depository library system. At present, there are more than 400 depository libraries in over 140 countries maintaining United Nations material from the date of designation as depository to the present. The general public can consult the material free of charge at any depository library." www.un.org/Depts/dhl/deplib/deplibsystem.htm (as of 6th Sep 2009).
I trust them the same as trusting God and his son. Luke 10:16-- All men are imperfect, there is no perfection with imperfect men. If they made an error, they repented of it and moved on=exactly what God requires of imperfect men.Thank you for responding.
Do you accept the fact that they had free access?