The teachings of Jesus in every translation on earth back the JW teachers. The facts of true God worship history, backs the JW teachers= 100% proof they are Matt 24:45.
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They only had error filled altered trinity translations the first 80 years. It took years of hard study, by many men of the bible, history, language, religious writings to come up with facts. Yes they were apart of the anointed. They are dead, they paid in full the wages of sin. They didn't know it was sin, Heb 10:26 condemns those who know its sin and yet does it anyways.What is the difference between “hundreds of religions” and the Watchtower? If they all have “different truths”, is that not even more true about the Watchtower Society?
The Watchtower Society is one of those “hundreds of religions”, and I can’t think of any other religion that changes it’s “truth” more frequently. How do you know that the “truth” you believe in right now is actually truth? How can you be totally sure until you know that the Governing body has stopped changing what you are told to believe? In fact, have you noticed that Proverbs 4:19 comes right after Proverbs 4:18? Here it is: “The way of the wicked is like the darkness; They do not know what makes them stumble.”
The Society used to celebrate Christmas and birthdays. That means that many of the anointed people celebrated things that would cause someone to be disfellowshipped today. Do you believe that those people were truly part of the anointed class, or were they in “darkness” (Proverbs 4:19)?
Thank you for responding.They only had error filled altered trinity translations the first 80 years. It took years of hard study, by many men of the bible, history, language, religious writings to come up with facts. Yes they were apart of the anointed. They are dead, they paid in full the wages of sin. They didn't know it was sin, Heb 10:26 condemns those who know its sin and yet does it anyways.
Sometimes the Governing Body is not unanimous when they make a decision. If the Governing body votes to change a doctrine, but the vote is not unanimous, should the members who voted against the change be disfellowshipped?
I doubt they should be disfellowshipped. They would accept it. Paul and Barnabas had disagreement on what was truth,( if the uncircumcised were allowed to be apart of them) They went to Jerusalem to the governing body( apostles-elders) to have the matter settled, then both accepted the conclusion. If one rejected the final say of the GB-they may be disfellowshipped.Thank you for responding.
Sometimes the Governing Body is not unanimous when they make a decision. If the Governing body votes to change a doctrine, but the vote is not unanimous, should the members who voted against the change be disfellowshipped?
Thanks for your response.I doubt they should be disfellowshipped. They would accept it. Paul and Barnabas had disagreement on what was truth,( if the uncircumcised were allowed to be apart of them) They went to Jerusalem to the governing body( apostles-elders) to have the matter settled, then both accepted the conclusion. If one rejected the final say of the GB-they may be disfellowshipped.
What about the times when a majority of the GB members want to change something, but they don’t have enough votes to reach the two-thirds requirement to make the change? That would mean that a minority of the GB members would have the final say, even though most of the members want that change? This has actually happened.
But in the end-truth will come to light, it is Gods will. Nothing can stop Gods will.Thanks for your response.
What about the times when a majority of the GB members want to change something, but they don’t have enough votes to reach the two-thirds requirement to make the change? That would mean that a minority of the GB members would have the final say, even though most of the members want that change? This has actually happened.
I agree that nothing can stop God’s will.But in the end-truth will come to light, it is Gods will. Nothing can stop Gods will.
The real question is whether or not the GB knows God’s will.
When they keep changing back and forth how can anyone know which belief is true? Sometimes they change to a new belief, and later change back to the old belief. How is anyone to know what is true when they keep changing their minds?
I know that the Watchtower Society depends on Proverbs 4:18 to show that they are receiving “new light”. Here is Proverbs 4:19: The way of the wicked is like the darkness; They do not know what makes them stumble. If the GB keeps going back and forth how can you know what is true right now? Are they leading you into darkness?
They get Gods revealed truth--At the proper time--not before.( Matt 24:45) God did it that way for reasons-It kept satan and his angels in spiritual darkness so he couldn't screw it all up. And it weeded out the fakes. Here in these last days, truth has now become abundant.( Dan 12:4) It took corrections. At the proper time.I agree that nothing can stop God’s will.
The real question is whether or not the GB knows God’s will.
When they keep changing back and forth how can anyone know which belief is true? Sometimes they change to a new belief, and later change back to the old belief. How is anyone to know what is true when they keep changing their minds?
I know that the Watchtower Society depends on Proverbs 4:18 to show that they are receiving “new light”. Here is Proverbs 4:19: The way of the wicked is like the darkness; They do not know what makes them stumble. If the GB keeps going back and forth how can you know what is true right now? Are they leading you into darkness?
It doesn't matter how many x things get changed, because in the end truth is what occurs. Who else on earth made corrections?
Are your beliefs true because they come from scripture, or are they true because they come from the Governing Body?They get Gods revealed truth--At the proper time--not before.( Matt 24:45) God did it that way for reasons-It kept satan and his angels in spiritual darkness so he couldn't screw it all up. And it weeded out the fakes. Here in these last days, truth has now become abundant.( Dan 12:4) It took corrections. At the proper time.
It doesn't matter how many x things get changed, because in the end truth is what occurs. Who else on earth made corrections?
In other words: Can you defend your beliefs from scripture?
Yes we are taught-Every utterance from God. OT-NT year after year, it never stops. Certain revealed truths that were hidden come through the Governing body. At the proper time. There were many mistakes made in the earlier years. Yet in 1879, C.T. Russell stated--Peace will be taken from the earth in 1914. How. By a prophecy only revealed through him from Daniel 4-pointed to the year 1914 when Rev 6 would occur. Rev 6 says-peace will be taken from the earth. And in 1914, peace was taken from the earth in a war like none ever before it. World war. Why? Because satan and his angels were cast down to the earth, kicked out of heaven when Jesus received his crown( Rev 6:2)- Gods kingdom rule took over heaven. Satan never allowed back in. He lives on this earth since 1914.Are your beliefs true because they come from scripture, or are they true because they come from the Governing Body?
In other words: Can you defend your beliefs from scripture?
Are your beliefs true because they come from scripture, or are they true because they come from the Governing Body?Yes we are taught-Every utterance from God. OT-NT year after year, it never stops.
Both.Are your beliefs true because they come from scripture, or are they true because they come from the Governing Body?
Thank you.Both.
So when someone asks you to prove one of your doctrines from scripture are you able to show them the scriptures that support that doctrine? Can you show them the actual chapters and verses?
For the most part.Thank you.
So when someone asks you to prove one of your doctrines from scripture are you able to show them the scriptures that support that doctrine? Can you show them the actual chapters and verses?