Next? Slapping fines on the unvaccinated

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BMS

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vibise said:
No. Vaccines have been mandated for decades if not centuries.
Each of us has a responsibility not to hurt others, and vaccines are one way to do that.
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Yes. The human reproductive process has been around as long as humans and therefore a responsibilty not to hurt the unborn.
 
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BMS

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vibise said:
What about the man?
What is his level of responsibility for unprotected sex or when contraception fails?
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Facts dont care about your feelings however unjust you feel reality is. If the man and woman consent to sex then conception may even occur when contraception fails.
Responsibility is responsibilty.
 
4Him

4Him

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vibise said:
I think it should be OK if an unvaxxed person produced an antibody test showing a high level, comparable to that of a vaccinated person.
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Why a high level....any level should do since natural antibodies are far superior to your vaccine....and there are many vaccinated that never produce antibodies. Have you been tested? You may have none.

BTW, even people that recovered from covid that may have no detectable antibodies are still protected because of B and T cells.
 
4Him

4Him

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vibise said:
The obese affect no one but themselves,
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Nonsense....it affects the entire healthcare system.....and who pays the price for that.
vibise said:
while the unvaccinated incubate and spread an infectious disease.
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You keep saying that yet can't prove it. I'm unvaxxed....I had covid. Not one person got covid from me. Most unvaxxed I know NEVER had covid. They aren't incubators and aren't spreading anything to anyone.....
 
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Harry Leggs

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vibise said:
The obese affect no one but themselves, while the unvaccinated incubate and spread an infectious disease.
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“Conventional wisdom is that natural selection will remove highly lethal pathogens if host death greatly reduces transmission. Vaccines that keep hosts alive but still allow transmission could thus allow very virulent strains to circulate in a population.”

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42 Studies on Vaccine Efficacy that Raise Doubts on Vaccine Mandates ⋆ Brownstone Institute

What these studies show, are that vaccines are important to reduce severe disease and death, but unable to prevent the disease from spreading.
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This is from an evolutionist who believes we survived disease up to 200 thousand yrs and more without vaccines.
 
4Him

4Him

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vibise said:
No. Vaccines have been mandated for decades if not centuries.
Each of us has a responsibility not to hurt others, and vaccines are one way to do that.
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For those that want a vaccine, get one. For those that don't, leave us alone. YOU take care of your own health....

If YOUR vaccine doesn't protect you, mine surely won't.

Sheeple haven't figured this out yet....
 
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Simpletruther

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inertia said:
Greece: A "health fee" for anyone over 60 that is not vaccinated
Austria: Restrict movement of all unvaccinated people - violation costs up to $4000
Italy : Tests required every 48 hours for unvaccinated at their expense

Meanwhile, in the United States, District Judge Terry Doughty in Monroe, Louisiana "blocked the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) from enforcing vaccine mandates among health care workers until legal challenges are resolved". Some are seeking religious exemptions as a potential loophole to prevent the enforcement of any mandatory vaccination laws. Others are simply refusing to be vaccinated altogether.

Historically:

"In 1901 a deadly smallpox epidemic tore through the Northeast, prompting the Boston and Cambridge boards of health to order the vaccination of all residents. But some refused to get the shot, claiming the vaccine order violated their personal liberties under the Constitution.

One of those holdouts, a Swedish-born pastor named Henning Jacobson, took his anti-vaccine crusade all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court. The nation's top justices issued a landmark 1905 ruling that legitimized the authority of states to “reasonably” infringe upon personal freedoms during a public health crisis by issuing a fine to those who refused vaccination."

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"But while the Cambridge vaccine order was compulsory, it wasn’t a “forced” vaccination. People like Jacobson who refused to get vaccinated faced a $5 fine, the equivalent of nearly $150 today. On July 17, 1902, Dr. Spencer issued a criminal complaint against Jacobson and other anti-vaccine activists to collect that $5 fine."

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So are you for or against
 
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Authentic Nouveau

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vibise said:
The obese affect no one but themselves, while the unvaccinated incubate and spread an infectious disease.
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So you approve of the fully jabbed getting sick and spreading disease.

Dishonest left wingers can't furnish numbers of "unvaccinated" that are asymptomatic and can't give a single case of an "unvaxxed" person with antibodies spreading disease.

Your porridge plattitudes are political.
 
Gondwanaland

Gondwanaland

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vibise said:
What about the man?
What is his level of responsibility for unprotected sex or when contraception fails?
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Does the man get to abort his involvement in the pregnancy and the 18 following years? No, he doesn't. But the woman gets to murder the baby no matter what the man wants.
 
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