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CrowCross

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Do you seriously think that unvaccinated people will be loaded into boxcars and sent to death camps? that is what your analogy suggests.

No one is proposing forced vaccination, but if people don't want to take this precaution against infection, then why is it wrong to impose restrictions on their activities depending on the circumstances? "Responsibility" used to be a Republican mantra, but apparently not when it comes to how to behave in a pandemic.
"then why is it wrong to impose restrictions on their activities depending on the circumstances?"

That's tantamount to forced vaccinations. They will hold your arm down in a slightly different way.
 

CrowCross

Super Member
Why do conservatives think that people who work as scientists and get paid for their jobs should not be trusted to present scientific information? Why is the fact that scientists get paid as scientists somehow make their public comments suspect?

Instead you think that political lobbyists or RW radio or television hosts or bloggers are good sources of information?
Why is it the socialist when presented with scientist who have serious concerns....blow off what those scientist are saying.

You once said you only listen to scientist who specialized or something like that...and I presented you with Geert Vanden Bossche, a world leader....and you found a way to object. We can see through you.
 

vibise

Well-known member
”Why is it wrong to impose restrictions on their activities...” You actually wrote that, and yet you claim no one is being forced to be vaccinated. Which activities will it come to? Being able to buy groceries? Going outside?

There are democrats, including politicians, who actually did say unvaccinated people should be rounded up and isolated from everyone else. The same thing they said about anyone who supported Trump. “Re-education camps” is what they called them.
Where did I even hint that unvaccinated people should not be able to go outside or buy groceries? Never. However, it should be up to individual businesses to set the rules on their property.

I do think that people using public transportation, where people are enclosed in tight spaces, should be vaccinated. And schoolteachers.

Can you name any politicians or democrats who specifically said that unvaccinated people should be rounded up and isolated in re-education camps? Links, please. Seems to me that is an unfounded accusation by Republicans against Dems.

In the meantime, in a desperate attempt to get people vaccinated, the Ohio GOP gov has instituted a lottery that will give $1million every week to 5 people, whose names will be drawn out of a hat of people who were vaccinated that week. That should drive up the dismal vaccination rate in that state.

 

CrowCross

Super Member
”Why is it wrong to impose restrictions on their activities...” You actually wrote that, and yet you claim no one is being forced to be vaccinated. Which activities will it come to? Being able to buy groceries? Going outside?

There are democrats, including politicians, who actually did say unvaccinated people should be rounded up and isolated from everyone else. The same thing they said about anyone who supported Trump. “Re-education camps” is what they called them.
Hopefully we'll see a lot of this

“No ‘Freedom Papers!’”: Hundreds Rally Against Vaccine Passports in Orange County​


Hundreds of protesters gathered outside the Orange County (OC) Board of Supervisors meeting on May 11 to protest against digital proof of vaccination, i.e., vaccine passports, after county officials added it to their vaccination app a few weeks ago without explanation. Complete article.
 

vibise

Well-known member
Why is it the socialist when presented with scientist who have serious concerns....blow off what those scientist are saying.

You once said you only listen to scientist who specialized or something like that...and I presented you with Geert Vanden Bossche, a world leader....and you found a way to object. We can see through you.
Yes, I found a way to object, based on science. Vanden Bossche has not been able to persuade his colleagues of his objections.

And seriously, most of the other so called "scientists" with serious concerns are family doctors or radiologists or osteopaths who have no relevant expertise in this subject and who present their concerns in Youtube videos instead of peer-reviewed papers.
 

vibise

Well-known member
Hopefully we'll see a lot of this

“No ‘Freedom Papers!’”: Hundreds Rally Against Vaccine Passports in Orange County​


Hundreds of protesters gathered outside the Orange County (OC) Board of Supervisors meeting on May 11 to protest against digital proof of vaccination, i.e., vaccine passports, after county officials added it to their vaccination app a few weeks ago without explanation. Complete article.
IOW this is a way to help businesses who want to exclude unvaccinated people. Not something the govt is imposing to restrict people's activities.
 

CrowCross

Super Member
Yes, I found a way to object, based on science. Vanden Bossche has not been able to persuade his colleagues of his objections.

And seriously, most of the other so called "scientists" with serious concerns are family doctors or radiologists or osteopaths who have no relevant expertise in this subject and who present their concerns in Youtube videos instead of peer-reviewed papers.
Sheeze EVERY DAY...and I mean every day I go online and find articles or videos showing people killed or harmed for life because of the jab. Today there was a video of 3 health care workers being interviewed. Wanna see it or will you complain about the platform and interviewer?
 

vibise

Well-known member
"then why is it wrong to impose restrictions on their activities depending on the circumstances?"

That's tantamount to forced vaccinations. They will hold your arm down in a slightly different way.
By circumstances I meant things like an upswing in cases and deaths, in which case, something would need to be done.

No one will hold down your arm, but you might not be able to buy a plane ticket or travel to certain places, or work in certain businesses.
 

vibise

Well-known member
Sheeze EVERY DAY...and I mean every day I go online and find articles or videos showing people killed or harmed for life because of the jab. Today there was a video of 3 health care workers being interviewed. Wanna see it or will you complain about the platform and interviewer?
Once again, just because someone gets sick after a vaccine does not mean the vaccine is responsible. Correlation is not causation.

And sure you can also go online and find evidence of zombies and miracle cures and UFOs and faked moon landings, etc.
 

CrowCross

Super Member
By circumstances I meant things like an upswing in cases and deaths, in which case, something would need to be done.

No one will hold down your arm, but you might not be able to buy a plane ticket or travel to certain places, or work in certain businesses.
Right now you can't even island hop in Hawaii without your vaccine passport.
 

CrowCross

Super Member
IOW this is a way to help businesses who want to exclude unvaccinated people. Not something the govt is imposing to restrict people's activities.
WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE SURVIVED COVID AND HAVE THE ANTI-BODIES????? Why have your socialist friends excluded them?
 

vibise

Well-known member
Rothchild, Sackler, Zohar, Kabbal....Ein-sof...Council of Foreign Nations, Committee of 300, World Economic Forum...Satan.
Sackler is certainly responsible for pushing opioids for profit, but a widespread conspiracy to falsify much of science?

The rest are either conspiracy theories, mythical beings or actual people with no connection or power over research labs. Evidence of such connections was not provided in the form of links.
 

CrowCross

Super Member
Once again, just because someone gets sick after a vaccine does not mean the vaccine is responsible. Correlation is not causation.

And sure you can also go online and find evidence of zombies and miracle cures and UFOs and faked moon landings, etc.
You know you're right vibise.....nothing bad happened to anyone after they got the jab.

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CrowCross

Super Member
Sackler is certainly responsible for pushing opioids for profit, but a widespread conspiracy to falsify much of science?

The rest are either conspiracy theories, mythical beings or actual people with no connection or power over research labs. Evidence of such connections was not provided in the form of links.
At least they have you believing that. By the way...wear your mask. Get the jab. Baaaaaaaahhhh
 

vibise

Well-known member
WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE SURVIVED COVID AND HAVE THE ANTI-BODIES????? Why have your socialist friends excluded them?
Studies have shown that the immune response in people who are recovering from covid is not as strong or as long lasting as from a vaccine.

This is why people like Trump are encouraged to get vaccinated. Which he did.
 

vibise

Well-known member
You know you're right vibise.....nothing bad happened to anyone after they got the jab.

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There are a few isolated confirmed cases of negative reactions, which is also the case for people who take tylenol.

Consequences of getting the disease are much worse than getting the vaccine.
 
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