SovereignGrace
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So the lost are dead, but they are not that dead that they are incapable of choosing?each soul of His will consciously choose Him.
we have very little free choice
but that 1 choice we do have.
So the lost are dead, but they are not that dead that they are incapable of choosing?each soul of His will consciously choose Him.
we have very little free choice
but that 1 choice we do have.
Which means they are alive, right?no it’s not that sort of logic.
it’s that a soul can hear Him and respond.
And even repentance is a gift of God per Rom. 2:4, 2 Cor. 7:10, 2 Tim. 2:25, Acts 5:31, Acts 11:18.even though a soul be little
if a soul cannot respond, she cannot repent.
an action is required of a soul - to accept Him…
that is a choice.
And the spirit in the lost person is dead...see Nekros, the Greek word used for 'dead'.it means they are a soul.
what is dead is this body - see haggai 2.
this is not the body adam received in eden, and what was not dead.
if a soul doesn’t choose then sin is meaningless
and adam did not sin.
a man repents and thats a choice.
not freedom capital letters but a choice.
only satan wants zombies for sons.
Man is body, soul and spirit. He is tripartite.there is only the soul and this fleshbody (what paul calls it). the mind is the carnal mind and self.
the soul is npsh. see the OT hebrew.
it means living being - 1 undivided living being.
because of adams willful disobedience
we are living in dead bodies.
haggai 2.
the spirit ruling a soul is either His spirit or a satanic one.
only a soul can be saved.
this fleshbody is a horror to Him.
at the change soon we are restored to the body given adam… and eve - the imperishable eden body and our resurrection body.
yes.. eve is innocent… it’s adam who sinned. he left her alone unprotected.
being saved is at the Change.
What you are promoting here is so contrary to scripture !each soul of His will consciously choose Him.
we have very little free choice
but that 1 choice we do have.
Original Sin is a generational Curse which results in our inheriting the Unconditional Consequences and Guilt of Adam's Original Sin in the Garden of Eden for breaking the Edenic Covenant of Works, as if we we're Real Participants with Adam and Eve; leaving all who are in Adam Fallen, Totally Depraved Sinners...Tell me what you believe Original Sin teaches. I don't think your view of it is the Reformed view, if I am understanding you correctly. TIA.
Does not prevent 'dead to sin' to respond to God's witnesses.
I (mostly) agree with this (and maybe it’s I who am wrong) but I don’t know that it means we are real participants with Adam, but that when we are conceived we are imputed that guilt and God views us as if we did it ourselves. Maybe this is a distinction without a difference?Original Sin is a generational Curse which results in our inheriting the Unconditional Consequences and Guilt of Adam's Original Sin in the Garden of Eden for breaking the Edenic Covenant of Works, as if we we're Real Participants with Adam and Eve; leaving all who are in Adam Fallen, Totally Depraved Sinners...
And if a soul sincerely wants Him, then He has ALREADY wrought grace in that person. The unregenerate person wants nothing to do with Him[Rom. 8:5-9, 1 Cor. 1:18, & 1 Cor. 2:14].if a soul sincerely wants Him
He will help you Die to that Self.
What I find intriguing is that the entire creation has come under a curse as per Romans 8 &c, and people accept this truth, but then say man get's to choose to obey God just like Adam, and if not then they become sinners like him. It is as if the universal consequences of the fall do not apply to them until they exercise almighty free will. Man-centered nonsense right there.I (mostly) agree with this (and maybe it’s I who am wrong) but I don’t know that it means we are real participants with Adam, but that when we are conceived we are imputed that guilt and God views us as if we did it ourselves. Maybe this is a distinction without a difference?
So, babies never love God, seeing that are conceived at variance with Him.
There’s that little island of righteousness that was left unaffected by the fall, their free will.What I find intriguing is that the entire creation has come under a curse as per Romans 8 &c, and people accept this truth, but then say man get's to choose to obey God just like Adam, and if not then they become sinners like him. It is as if the universal consequences of the fall do not apply to them until they exercise almighty free will. Man-centered nonsense right there.
God has given gracious divine help: Creation testifying, law written in the hearts, conscience bearing witness, Holy Spirit reproving, the gospel of salvation to whosoever believes.When man is dead in his sins, his nature is against God... His nature controls his will... He will not and cannot come to God without divine help... That simple... Why is that so hard?
We live in the flesh as humans, but we no longer live in accordance to the flesh. You are not making any sense, ma’am. Your posts are all over the place, strewn out.you are still in the sin flesh.
saved is when His souls are restored
— which Christ made possible.
I think this is what @SovereignGrace is talking about below that we can live by the flesh(carnal nature) or by the spirit to either glorify God or self-our fallen sinful and corrupt nature. Paul is contrasting the two and those who practice or continue in the flesh will not inherit the kingdom but only those who live by the spirit will.the flesh itself is sin.
sin is not just a system or an action.
the corruption caused by the fall
is cosmological not just a mental state.
if you go and enjoy this world and body,
that is the sin realm being enjoyed.
Sin is a breaking of one or more of God’s laws, so I don’t get what you said when you said sin isn’t an action. Yes, we can sin without doing something, such as lusting in our hearts after someone, but its still breaking God’s law. But you’re still not making sense, ma’am. Your posts are all over the place, your thoughts, too.the flesh itself is sin.
sin is not just a system or an action.
the corruption caused by the fall
is cosmological not just a mental state.
if you go and enjoy this world and body,
that is the sin realm being enjoyed.
God has given gracious divine help: Creation testifying, law written in the hearts, conscience bearing witness, Holy Spirit reproving, the gospel of salvation to whosoever believes.