NO Salvation Outside of the Roman Catholic Church!

stjerome5

Active member
I was Catholic for over 30 years....don't tell me I didn't investigate the Catholic religion.
being raised Catholic doesn't per se mean a blasted thing
I was also raised Catholic but not taught a thing. I had to teach myself. I have seen bugs in the Church before... guess they are informed Cahtolics?
 

balshan

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NOT TRUE.

The Roman Catholic Church HAS ALWAYS TAUGHT that IF - an individual totally detached from, and INVINCIBLY IGNORANT of the Roman Catholic CHurch and it's claims happens to become aware of enough "Catholic doctrine" to enable a relationship in FAITH with God, they can then be counted as being part of the universal church of Jesus Christ. and NOT part of the Roman Catholic Church - as long as they remain invincbly IGNORANT of the Roman Catholic Church, and it's claims. of primacy.
Not what they taught us at our schools. It was very much the only people going to heaven were RCs, if they did enough works. They might say it to non RCs makes them feel better not what they taught RC students. Non RCs were used by Satan to try and steal us from the one true church and could not be trusted.
 

mica

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Bob Carabbio said:
NOT TRUE.

The Roman Catholic Church HAS ALWAYS TAUGHT that IF - an individual totally detached from, and INVINCIBLY IGNORANT of the Roman Catholic CHurch and it's claims happens to become aware of enough "Catholic doctrine" to enable a relationship in FAITH with God, they can then be counted as being part of the universal church of Jesus Christ. and NOT part of the Roman Catholic Church - as long as they remain invincbly IGNORANT of the Roman Catholic Church, and it's claims. of primacy.
Not what they taught us at our schools. It was very much the only people going to heaven were RCs, if they did enough works. They might say it to non RCs makes them feel better not what they taught RC students. Non RCs were used by Satan to try and steal us from the one true church and could not be trusted.
the same in schools i went to.

maybe it depended on the branch of the nuns/priests. it's obvious most of them didn't know much about it but taught as if it was THE LAW. more confusion by the rcc.
 

balshan

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the same in schools i went to.

maybe it depended on the branch of the nuns/priests. it's obvious most of them didn't know much about it but taught as if it was THE LAW. more confusion by the rcc.
Well let us be honest the Brigidine nuns were big on Limbo. We were told we had to believe in it, now that was them teaching us a false doctrine.
 

Bob Carabbio

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Not what they taught us at our schools. It was very much the only people going to heaven were RCs, if they did enough works. They might say it to non RCs makes them feel better not what they taught RC students. Non RCs were used by Satan to try and steal us from the one true church and could not be trusted.
Doesn't surprise me. The "Official words". Rome, isn't necessarily accurately passed on to the Laiety, who aren't encouraged to think for them selves anyway. Dad was cautioned NOT to read the Bible with understanding, but to trust the "Roman line". They were teaching "Limbo" for unbaptized babies when I was young, even though it was never "Official doctrine". That's always been Rome's "Work Around" for the foolishness they subject their people to.

Of course my Family always warned me that the Roman Catholic Church in the U.S. and the Roman Catholic Church in Europe were rather different breeds of cat. Mom grew up in the ORANGE part of Ireland.
 

4Him

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Staff member
being raised Catholic doesn't per se mean a blasted thing

It does when I have studied it as I have....I guarantee I know more about the Catholic religion than you do, which is evidenced by your posts.
I was also raised Catholic but not taught a thing.

Typical.
I had to teach myself. I have seen bugs in the Church before... guess they are informed Cahtolics?

You should have taught yourself about God's word rather than the apostate Catholic church.
 

Buzzard

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great, another person who says God cannot do anything He pleases...

outa here
Yes he could
-------- BUT ------

Amos 3:7
Surely the Lord God will do nothing,
but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets.

Hosea 4:6
My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge:
because thou hast rejected knowledge,
I will also reject thee,
that thou shalt be no priest to me:
seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God,
I will also forget thy children.

Peter says
Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises:
that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature,
having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.

5 And beside this, giving all diligence,
add to your faith virtue;
and to virtue knowledge;

or; else be as Hosea says;
I will also reject thee,
and thy children.
:eek:

Amos 3:7
Surely the Lord God will do nothing,
but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets.

all you have to do is show it to us in Moses or the Prophets
 

mica

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being raised Catholic doesn't per se mean a blasted thing
I was also raised Catholic but not taught a thing.
why not? didn't you go to Mass? catholic schools? how about pre communion classes?

I had to teach myself. I have seen bugs in the Church before... guess they are informed Cahtolics?
how did you teach yourself?

were those bugs baptised with catholic water by a priest?
 

JoeT

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The OT says sin is passed on by the father

Ok, where does it say we are guilty of our father's sin? You do know that sin is an immoral voluntary act of word, deed or thought? If I am innately sinful, that is to say my nature is sin, then nothing I do is culpable, rather the culpability belongs to the one who created my nature as sin. Who is it that creates the nature of man?

JoeT
 
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balshan

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Ok, where does it say we are guilty of our father's sin? You do know that sin is a voluntary act of word, deed or thought? If I am innately sinful, that is to say my nature is sin, then nothing I do is culpable, rather the culpability belongs to the one who created my nature as sin. Who is it that creates the nature of man?

JoeT
I posted the verses and you just didn't bother to read them. Go back through this thread you will see them.
 

4Him

Administrator
Staff member
Ok, where does it say we are guilty of our father's sin? You do know that sin is a voluntary act of word, deed or thought? If I am innately sinful, that is to say my nature is sin, then nothing I do is culpable, rather the culpability belongs to the one who created my nature as sin. Who is it that creates the nature of man?

JoeT

Seems Catholics have a hard time understanding all things were created good....then the fall happened....You inherit the fallen nature of Adam. Unless you are suggesting Adam didn't fall.
 

Nondenom40

Well-known member
Ok, where does it say we are guilty of our father's sin? You do know that sin is an immoral voluntary act of word, deed or thought? If I am innately sinful, that is to say my nature is sin, then nothing I do is culpable, rather the culpability belongs to the one who created my nature as sin. Who is it that creates the nature of man?

JoeT
Paul asked that very question in Romans 3. Read it for his answer. I think James 1 speaks to this as well. Hint, youre not off the hook for your sin...just fyi
 
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