Why in your heart could you say what you said? Where is your gratitude for what God has done for you and you deny that God will not do the same for some others when the scriptures express clearly otherwise. In effect you deny Jesus atonement and need to repent.So it is what it is. I know this puts a damper on universalism, that God saves everyone. Some will never be saved or see life !
John wrote Jn 3:36 . They which are under Gods wrath, shall not see life ! Life is eternal life as in Matt7:14Why in your heart could you say what you said? Where is your gratitude for what God has done for you and you deny that God will not do the same for some others when the scriptures express clearly otherwise. In effect you deny Jesus atonement and need to repent.
Gpd bless you,
SeventhDay
No, it is not preaching the whole council of God and that scripture is true in its proper context but I doubt that you understand what that context is.John wrote Jn 3:36 . They which are under Gods wrath, shall not see life ! Life is eternal life as in Matt7:14
14 because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
Now thats preaching the whole counsel of God !
Yes it is. Some will never see life !No, it is not preaching the whole council of God and that scripture is true in its proper context but I doubt that you understand what that context is.
God bless you,
SeventhDay
Sorry the word permanent does not appear nor does the Greek tense suggest itThe ones in Jn 3:36 under the wrath of God, are permanently unbelievers, and have no hope in the future. The unbelievers Christ died for are reconciled to God while enemies and unbelievers and never under wrath Rom 5:10. They are never the unbelievers of Jn 3:36
They shall not see life! That's permanent!Sorry the word permanent does not appear nor does the Greek tense suggest it
Men are reconciled when they believe
Rom. 5:1 —KJV
“¶ Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:”
You need to differentiate between Christ's act and the application of it to the lost
As long as they do not believeThey shall not see life! That's permanent!
Jn 3:36 doesnt say as long as they do not believe, it says those under wrath shall not see life ! Thats a promiseAs long as they do not believe
John 3:18 —KJV
“He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.”
all unbelievers are under condemnation
The bible knows nothing about a select number of unbelievers of whom this verse is not true
Mark 16:16 —ESV
“Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.”
In John 3:36 believeth not is in the present tense. It is talking about what is going on at that timeJn 3:36 doesnt say as long as they do not believe, it says those under wrath shall not see life ! Thats a promise
I know all that in Jn 3:36 been known for years. Those under wrath shall not see life and that is future tense! No hope for the future. SorryIn John 3:36 believeth not is in the present tense. It is talking about what is going on at that time
PS you left these off
John 3:18 —KJV
“He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.”
all unbelievers are under condemnation
The bible knows nothing about a select number of unbelievers of whom this verse is not true
Mark 16:16 —ESV
“Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.”
Not true and no scripture says that. The unbelievers Christ died for have been reconciled to God by His Death while being enemies Rom 5:10. Those who are reconciled to God are not under His condemnation. That's a contradiction.
all unbelievers are under condemnation
all unbelievers are under condemnation
The problem is you have a faulty definition of electtom
Not those Christ died for, they have nothing for God to condemn in them, their sins have been taken away, to include the sin of unbelief, hence God lays nothing to their charge Rom 8:33-34
33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God’s elect? It is God that justifieth. 34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us
The truth of the matter is those Christ was condemned for, God has nothing to condemn them for.The problem is you have a faulty definition of elect
and as a result you make scripture contradict itself
Elect does not mean unconditionally predestined to salvation from the foundation of the earth
It simply means chosen
Christ is in particular the elect
It is in Christ men become elect (chosen in Christ to all the benefits that are available in Christ)
Election is Christocentric
and there is no such such election outside of Christ
The truth is the benefits of Christ's atonement are applied only to those who are found to be in Christ through faithThe truth of the matter is those Christ was condemned for, God has nothing to condemn them for.
When Christ died the benefit is in effect. Thats why those He died for are reconciled to God by His death while they are enemies. The benefit has been applied.The truth is the benefits of Christ's atonement are applied only to those who are found to be in Christ through faith
Only for those in Christ through faithWhen Christ died the benefit is in effect. Thats why those He died for are reconciled to God by His death while they are enemies. The benefit has been applied.
In fact the benefits of Christs death is applied before the ones He died for are born sinners. All for whom He died are born sanctified unto God Heb 10:10The truth is the benefits of Christ's atonement are applied only to those who are found to be in Christ through faith
The benefit was applied while being enemies, that's why they are reconciled.Only for those in Christ through faith
Eph. 1:13 —KJV
“In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,”
No the sacrifice was made when we were enemiesThe benefit was applied while being enemies, that's why they are reconciled.