Old Covenant

e v e

Super Member
I have a lot of them.

When will we get it right, That GOD is ALWAYS Right ???

Yours in Christ, Michael
the problem is that few have read what He said,
since KJV is utter sorcery and the modern translations are mistranslated, likewise.

So... the point is that the sons need to inquire of Him into the prophets and
be able to search His words among the corrupted ones.

But most just accept the translations handed down, since Rome,
and do not care..

because they WANT to believe He created this earth and this body.

WHY?

So they can continue to ENJOY IT (this body and this earth) and forget all about hIm...
but this body and earth are Abominations to Him! And for that, they will miss the change
and need to suffer tribulation...

The reason many will NOT go to the change is precisely this reason..
even as they cry 'saved, I am saved'.
No one in this APE BODY is saved from here until we are restored to our Eden
Nature.

God's anger is that souls will not reject this body and this earth.
for this is the theme of lawlessness.

And this IS scriptural, in prophets.
And not only translations of OT are corrupt...but also of the NT.
So... it's as mess.

the vision was Sealed for disobedience..
and He stopped talking to the OT fathers.
that vision is still sealed throughout most of modern christianity.

modern christianity told itself there is no more prophecy as an Excuse to justify why
God ceased to talk to them.
 

e v e

Super Member
Paul knew this would happen...that no longer would modern christians have access to Him,
and hear Him, and would be glued instead to Esau's versions of scripture.

And those are not God's and are not Right.
 

e v e

Super Member
many who are in 'charge of' modern christianity'
as preachers or as academics, and who believe they decide or know what is canonical --

God will not talk to them!!!

they are drunk on the wine.
 

e v e

Super Member
the beast of Rev is this current type of body
of this earth
as a blueprint of the Nature of the satanic spirit realm
 

JonHawk

Active member
@JonHawk is a formerSDA, I{SDAchristian} am currently a church member(Elder, Deacon, Lay Pastor, Literature Evangelist, Apologist, etc.) in good standing, that gives the message in church regularly.

good to know

so what is the sermon?
Mike's message is the same as his mentor's, it's not of faith:

"They declare that we have only to believe on Jesus Christ, and that faith is all-sufficient; that the righteousness of Christ is to be the sinner's credentials; that this imputed righteousness fulfils the law for us, and that we are under no obligation to obey the law of God. This class claim that Christ came to save sinners, and that he has saved them. “I am saved,” they will repeat over and over again. But are they saved while transgressing the law of Jehovah?—No; for the garments of Christ's righteousness are not a cloak for iniquity. Such teaching is a gross deception, and Christ becomes to these persons a stumbling-block as he did to the Jews" EGW ST 1897

Nor by works:

Man can achieve no praiseworthy exploits that give him any glory. Men are in the habit of glorifying men and exalting men. It makes me shudder....They are corrupt, polluted, vile; and nothing that comes from all their doings can elevate them with God, for all that they do is an abomination in His sight; EGW FW 24

Much to the contrary.

"Poor tempest tossed soul, only believe in Jesus."
 
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e v e

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@JonHawk is a formerSDA, I{SDAchristian} am currently a church member(Elder, Deacon, Lay Pastor, Literature Evangelist, Apologist, etc.) in good standing, that gives the message in church regularly.


Mike's message is the same as his mentor's, it's not of faith:

"They declare that we have only to believe on Jesus Christ, and that faith is all-sufficient; that the righteousness of Christ is to be the sinner's credentials; that this imputed righteousness fulfils the law for us, and that we are under no obligation to obey the law of God. This class claim that Christ came to save sinners, and that he has saved them. “I am saved,” they will repeat over and over again. But are they saved while transgressing the law of Jehovah?—No; for the garments of Christ's righteousness are not a cloak for iniquity. Such teaching is a gross deception, and Christ becomes to these persons a stumbling-block as he did to the Jews" EGW ST 1897

Nor by works:

Man can achieve no praiseworthy exploits that give him any glory. Men are in the habit of glorifying men and exalting men. It makes me shudder....They are corrupt, polluted, vile; and nothing that comes from all their doings can elevate them with God, for all that they do is an abomination in His sight; EGW FW 24

Much to the contrary.

"Poor tempest tossed soul, only believe in Jesus."


who is an elder?
 

JonHawk

Active member
Mike's message is the same as his mentor's, it's not of faith:

"They declare that we have only to believe on Jesus Christ, and that faith is all-sufficient; that the righteousness of Christ is to be the sinner's credentials; that this imputed righteousness fulfils the law for us, and that we are under no obligation to obey the law of God. This class claim that Christ came to save sinners, and that he has saved them. “I am saved,” they will repeat over and over again. But are they saved while transgressing the law of Jehovah?—No; for the garments of Christ's righteousness are not a cloak for iniquity. Such teaching is a gross deception, and Christ becomes to these persons a stumbling-block as he did to the Jews" EGW ST 1897

Nor by works:

Man can achieve no praiseworthy exploits that give him any glory. Men are in the habit of glorifying men and exalting men. It makes me shudder....They are corrupt, polluted, vile; and nothing that comes from all their doings can elevate them with God, for all that they do is an abomination in His sight; EGW FW 24

Much to the contrary.

"Poor tempest tossed soul, only believe in Jesus."
who is an elder?
Do you thus deal with the Lord, O foolish and unwise people?
Is He not your Father, who bought you?Has He not made you and established you?
Remember the days of old, Consider the years of many generations.
Ask your your elders, and they will tell you: When the Most High divided their inheritance to the nations,
When He separated the sons of Adam, He set the boundaries of the peoples
According to the number of the children of Israel. Deut 32
 

SDAchristian

Well-known member
Prologue:
AV Mt 12:36-37 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. 37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

It is impossible to outwit Divinity's judgment in Omniscience.
Mike's message is the same as his mentor's, it's not of faith:
You are entitled to express your opinion within the discussion rules of CARM. Truth or not, will be GOD's to judge.
World Wide Web information said:
A spiritual mentor is someone who cares about you and wants the best for you. They know that the most important thing in life is to have a personal relationship with Christ, so they encourage you to invest in this relationship. As a result, you can grow spiritually and become mature in your faith.
So you understand what a "mentor" is, Who is your "mentor" then ???

Yours in Christ, Michael
 

JonHawk

Active member
For those who are led by the Spirit of God are the children of God. The Spirit you received does not make you slaves, so that you live in fear again; rather, the Spirit you received brought about your adoption to sonship.
Prologue:
AV Mt 12:36-37 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. 37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

It is impossible to outwit Divinity's judgment in Omniscience.

You are entitled to express your opinion within the discussion rules of CARM. Truth or not, will be GOD's to judge.

So you understand what a "mentor" is, Who is your "mentor" then ???
'They will all be taught by God.’ Everyone who has heard the Father and learned from him comes to Me.
 

SDAchristian

Well-known member
If you do what is right, will you not be accepted? But if you do not do what is right, sin is crouching at your door;
AV Gn 4:7 If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee [shall be] his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.

Is GOD's testimony to Cain, still True ???

The sin of sabbath breaking relationship in GOD's Ownership from Creatorship, is ruling in a lot of people since Cain.

Just like Cain, they will kill when tempted. When GOD accepted Abel's worship offering, but not Cain's worship offering.

A Thought in chiastic form from scriptures: What will people choose, when GOD accepts sabbath worship over Sunday worship, in the end days ???

The same as Cain's choice ???

Yours in Christ, Michael
 

JonHawk

Active member
AV Gn 4:7 If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted?
By faith Abel brought God a better offering than Cain did. By faith he was commended as righteous, God testifying of his gifts; Heb 11:4

and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee [shall be] his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.
Is GOD's testimony to Cain, still True ??

Woe to them! They have taken the way of Cain...
These are the people who divide you, who follow mere natural instincts and do not have the Spirit. Jude 1
 

SDAchristian

Well-known member
For those who are led by the Spirit of God are the children of God. The Spirit you received does not make you slaves, so that you live in fear again; rather, the Spirit you received brought about your adoption to sonship.
'They will all be taught by God.’ Everyone who has heard the Father and learned from him comes to Me.
AV Re 7:1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.

When the winds of strife blow on the whole earth, then will be revealed a great truth about the self deceived ones. Reference the 10 virgins parable.

Yours in Christ, Michael
 

JonHawk

Active member
AV Re 7:1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.

When the winds of strife blow on the whole earth, then will be revealed a great truth about the self deceived ones. Reference the 10 virgins parable.
But even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing, 4 whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them. 2 Cor 4
 

e v e

Super Member
Mike's message is the same as his mentor's, it's not of faith:

"They declare that we have only to believe on Jesus Christ, and that faith is all-sufficient; that the righteousness of Christ is to be the sinner's credentials; that this imputed righteousness fulfils the law for us, and that we are under no obligation to obey the law of God. This class claim that Christ came to save sinners, and that he has saved them. “I am saved,” they will repeat over and over again. But are they saved while transgressing the law of Jehovah?—No; for the garments of Christ's righteousness are not a cloak for iniquity. Such teaching is a gross deception, and Christ becomes to these persons a stumbling-block as he did to the Jews" EGW ST 1897

Nor by works:

Man can achieve no praiseworthy exploits that give him any glory. Men are in the habit of glorifying men and exalting men. It makes me shudder....They are corrupt, polluted, vile; and nothing that comes from all their doings can elevate them with God, for all that they do is an abomination in His sight; EGW FW 24

Much to the contrary.

"Poor tempest tossed soul, only believe in Jesus."

Do you thus deal with the Lord, O foolish and unwise people?
Is He not your Father, who bought you?Has He not made you and established you?
Remember the days of old, Consider the years of many generations.
Ask your your elders, and they will tell you: When the Most High divided their inheritance to the nations,
When He separated the sons of Adam, He set the boundaries of the peoples
According to the number of the children of Israel. Deut 32

being saved is at the change paul describes…



im not sure what you are trying to tell me.
 

e v e

Super Member
But even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing, 4 whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them. 2 Cor 4

the vision is sealed to most modern christianity.…a most negative topic..
why?

for belief in the idol = this body
which the beast is the blueprint of

and even as they say ‘i am saved already’
refusing to die to this world.

this type corrupt body is the idol…
the sin jacob refuses to give up

and he will go through trib
because refusing to inquire in the prophets
and understand this theme…

that eden is in the other world
and this body is a horror to God.

the OT fathers got cursed - refusing to understand.

and today that continues…
because? esau corrupted scripture.

but exactly what esau did is lethal today
that the belief got hidden by esau

and is the very cause of all the problems….

few are brave enough to can accept, to accept that esau = pharisee 'scribes'
distorted important sections of scripture….

God - and also Christ - told that they did and would. Paul knew this.

looking around these forums it’s visible everywhere the mess.
 
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e v e

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ones who clings to esaus
lie that God made this earth and these bodies is going through trib.

any day now….

:(
 
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