bigthinker
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There is an external standard for determining what is factually true. None of what you claim meets that standard. The issue is that you aren't unfamiliar with the standard because its the same standard you use for factual truth. For example, the amount of gasoline in your car's gas tank is measurable. The actual amount is indifferent to what you believe is the amount. We rely on the fuel indicator which we have experienced as being repeatedly reliable. The amount of fuel in your tank is an objective amount.Yeah, except I'm seeing things that you're saying that you've ignored. So, I don't have a problem with what I see. Especially when you say things you don't realize.
Action, and results, when tested against the objective.
Oh, I don't know. It looks pretty clear to me.
You don't believe that the bible is a reliable document, so you don't believe anything anyone says which supports the veracity of the biblical narrative.
Which I find humorous, because your lack of belief is not based on having verified it. Rather, simply from refusal to do.
The most amusing attribute of confirmation bias is that all you have to do is nothing, and you've confirmed your bias.
We who follow Jesus, we're commanded to do what the bible says, so we can know for ourselves whether or not it's true. That's actually the antithesis of confirmation bias.
Not just scripture. I have however read, and acted on it long enough to know that it's true.
So, I have no problem with my view.
I do however find myself questioning your view, because you've refused to do what is required to know, and continue to claim that by not believing, you've somehow definitively proven it false.
That's a weak position, and has no basis in fact, or reality. It only has validity in your mind.
I'd think that Truth would be enough to care. Furthermore, I'd think the final state of your life would further be enough to know.
So, if you don't care, then why are you wasting your life on an internet forum, arguing with strangers, trying to win an unwinnable argument?
I've found myself wondering if the truth is that people like you don't actually want to know, and are in fact just looking for means and ways to justify yourselves, so you can move on. Otherwise, you'd be taking the time to learn, and then do what Jesus said, so you can actually know.
EXACTLY.
So, I want to know--- why are you wasting your time here?
When I lived an atheistic life, I didn't care one iota about such matters, and the last place I wanted to be is in an environment where I had to listen to people tell me I was wrong, and needed to deal with it.
Considering that you just said you don't want to know what part is factually true, reliable, and therefore, meaningful.
You're placing yourself in a position of just adding wrath to your condemnation by continuing to engage in discussion on this topic.
Go out, live your life. It'll be over with soon enough, and you'll wish you would've paid more attention.
I hope to meet you in eternity, so turn to Jesus, before its too late to do anything about it.
I'm already aware of this. Yet you continue to expose yourself to us, come to a website dedicated entirely to your salvation, and knowledge of God.
God has said he'll make sure that the knowledge of God will fill the whole earth. You can either benefit from it, or exclude yourself from it. I encourage you to benefit from it. It'd be a pity for you to be so close, and yet exclude yourself from life.
It's a choice you have to make. God says it matters.
The question becomes--- what's more important to you?
What you think you know, or what you can know?
You're more than welcome to remain ignorant. But I've never once seen where ignorance is a positive state to remain in.
You've said that several times now.
So, remain in ignorance then. It is after all your life.
Yep. you've stated that several times now.
That is your prerogative. It's your eternity too.
Why don't you just call on his name. He did say--- whosoever will call upon him shall be saved.
Then do what Jesus said, and you'll have your own reasons, instead of someone else's which you clearly don't want.
That's your prerogative.
No. You're only more powerful than God in your own mind.
Jesus made this really clear.
25 At that time Jesus answered and said, “I thank You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things from the wise and prudent and have revealed them to babes. 26 Even so, Father, for so it seemed good in Your sight. 27 All things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father. Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him. 28 Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. 29 Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30 For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.”Do you want to be forced, and held down, or do you want to be freed, so you can choose for yourself?
As some have said before--- God is a gentleman. He's inviting you. He's not going to force you.
This is different from beliefs. With beliefs, one can have whatever standard they want because beliefs are not falsifiable.
