One example of why capitalism is bad. The "plandemic" being fueled by greed/power.....

Reformedguy

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Yes the people you worship are responsible for poverty, slavery, wars, malnutrition(which leads to genetic disorders), starvation, etc... They only thing they aren't responsible for(at least directly)is natural disasters.
Yes because those things do not exist in socialist countries right?

Your 90% figure is made up.
 

Thistle

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What we are witnessing is an absolute power grab by the elites. As was the "War on Terror"..... Create a situation to create fear and then milk it for everything its worth....Billions and billions of dollars being stolen and or extorted. Wait until the time comes to pay the bill via taxes and inflation.....The rich will get richer, the poor will get poorer. Even the Bible warned about this as a sign of corruption.
My problem with this analysis is that it's calling cronyism capitalism. Everybody's against cronyism or at least they ought to be, unless of course they're benefiting from it. You might call it the "cut it out or cut me in" impulse. But cronyism is an overlay on every system. There was cronyism in feudalism, there's cronyism in Mercantilism, and there's cronyism in Socialism, and there's cronyism and capitalism. Trumps popularity very properly tapped into resentment against crony statism, by which the elite robbed Americans of their birthright of limited government.
 

wiseones2cents

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Canadia is 5 steps deeper in the socialism hole than America.

"China Uighurs: One million held in political camps. They don't pay taxes. They get free re-education.


Actually Canada was a better country when it leaned socialist. Its been 5 steps deeper to capitalism, especially thanks to free trade and the result is the cost of living is sky rocketing with no end in sight.

China is a Communist(state capitalism) dictatorship country infused with western capitalist money. Which is heavily subsidized by the Chinese government. Nothing to do with socialism.

China Uighurs are rebels that want to break away, It has nothing to do with socialism and everything to do with territorial disputes.

You know, Just like the USA and Iraq, Iran and every other country it wages war against that don't bell to its imperial will..
 

wiseones2cents

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You are a science outsider. So average temps went up 2 degrees since 1880 and we lost half of the increase in the past 3 years.

You have no drilling education. You have no idea how long we have been fracking and where.
I don't need a science degree to tell me what my eyes see, which are milder summers, falls and winters.

I am well aware of fracking on fault lines and that they cause earthquakes.

 

wiseones2cents

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What is their labor worth and who decides it?
I guess it would depend on the state and the demand of said labor(especially skilled labor), but they can afford to make skilled education super cheap, thus enough skilled laborers to keep wages honest.

At the end of the day, everyone would be able to make a honest living and retire early.
 

wiseones2cents

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Yes because those things do not exist in socialist countries right?

Your 90% figure is made up.
No they dont. Do you ever see these things exist in a Mennonite, Quaker, Amish community? Everyone has shelter, clothing and food on the table. No one goes without. Neither did native American tribes, why? Because the all worked for each other, not like in capitalism, you work for the rich.
 

Yakuda

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I guess it would depend on the state and the demand of said labor(especially skilled labor), but they can afford to make skilled education super cheap, thus enough skilled laborers to keep wages honest.

At the end of the day, everyone would be able to make a honest living and retire early.
Then as soon as you say it "depends" someone will complain they aren't getting as much as another worker. Very few people think they are getting paid what they think they should be paid.
 

Reformedguy

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No they dont. Do you ever see these things exist in a Mennonite, Quaker, Amish community? Everyone has shelter, clothing and food on the table. No one goes without. Neither did native American tribes, why? Because the all worked for each other, not like in capitalism, you work for the rich.
 

Reformedguy

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So are you for getting rid of electricity? Lol How silly. Is your main transportation a horse and buggy? Do you use air conditioning?
 

wiseones2cents

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My problem with this analysis is that it's calling cronyism capitalism. Everybody's against cronyism or at least they ought to be, unless of course they're benefiting from it. You might call it the "cut it out or cut me in" impulse. But cronyism is an overlay on every system. There was cronyism in feudalism, there's cronyism in Mercantilism, and there's cronyism in Socialism, and there's cronyism and capitalism. Trumps popularity very properly tapped into resentment against crony statism, by which the elite robbed Americans of their birthright of limited government.
This is only half cronyism. First they are bribed to do unlawful things, THEN they are offered jobs once they leave their government positions.

Now yes. Corruption can and does exist in most economic systems, but none are worse then Capitalism other than all out dictatorship and slavery.

It caters to greed. When you have individuals who have more money and power then said government, they can easily influence and coerce government officials. Everything about American democracy and capitalism is crooked. government candidates are bankrolled(bought and paid for) by elites via lobbyists. Its all goes south from there.

Elites have been robbing Americans of their wealth with worthless paper money, since they left the gold standard. Now they own over 86% of total global wealth and that number is rising rapidly, thanks to them using this plandemic.......
 

wiseones2cents

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So are you for getting rid of electricity? Lol How silly. Is your main transportation a horse and buggy? Do you use air conditioning?
So your logic is that electricity and cars contributes to the said problems of society?LOL Talk about silly. Which one of these does the use of electricity contribute to?

poverty, slavery, wars, malnutrition(which leads to genetic disorders), starvation, etc..
 

Reformedguy

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So your logic is that electricity and cars contributes to the said problems of society?LOL Talk about silly. Which one of these does the use of electricity contribute to?

poverty, slavery, wars, malnutrition(which leads to genetic disorders), starvation, etc..
Is that what I said? You mentioned the Amish not I. A example of your perfect socialist society.
 

Thistle

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This is only half cronyism. First they are bribed to do unlawful things, THEN they are offered jobs once they leave their government positions.

Now yes. Corruption can and does exist in most economic systems, but none are worse then Capitalism other than all out dictatorship and slavery.
No crony Socialism is far worse. It's not even close. Under crony Socialism the talentless hack's steal everything and tell the people that the wealth they've stolen for themselves belongs to "The people."
It caters to greed.
The socialists flying in and out of Davos in there Lear Jets are not greedy?
When you have individuals who have more money and power then said government, they can easily influence and coerce government officials.
If government officials are as weak and beggerly as you portray them, and I don't dispute you on that, the idea that you're going to give these people a bunch more power via Socialism is insane. That's like saying I don't think Johny is responsible enough to handle a BB gun, so I'll give them an atomic bomb instead.
Everything about American democracy and capitalism is crooked. government candidates are bankrolled(bought and paid for) by elites via lobbyists. Its all goes south from there.
You can get rid of chronic illness by simply sending everyone with a chronic illness to the gallows, but I think reasonable people would concur that the proposed solution is worse than the illness.
Elites have been robbing Americans of their wealth with worthless paper money,
I think I have a solution. We need to start with a grassroots movement to expose this scam. Why don't we start by you sending me all your worthless money, and I'll let you know how it goes from there. I just want you to know that I'm down with the struggle brother.
since they left the gold standard. Now they own over 86% of total global wealth and that number is rising rapidly, thanks to them using this plandemic.......
And I'd be happy to take all their worthless money to.
 

Authentic Nouveau

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Name one socialist country that did not mass murder its own citizens.
You asking me? lol. I don't have their talking points pamphlets. When a country really enters socialism, a lot of people get cranky loosing the stuff and their freed. science has proven socialists do not get flak and resistance from their working classes when they are dead.
 
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