Jewjitzu
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God speaking to nature. Two natures - one godly one physical.Then who are the US that helped God create in Gen:1:26?
I've posted this before.
God speaking to nature. Two natures - one godly one physical.Then who are the US that helped God create in Gen:1:26?
I've given the answer. Either 101G doesn't understand English or he doesn't like the answer.Is this a New Jewjitzu move? Run away as fast as you can.
ERROR, you gave no answer, God is a plurality of himself as the ECHAD H430 אֱלֹהִים 'elohiym (el-o-heem') . but the yachid who is H433 אֱלוֹהַּ 'elowahh (el-o'-ah)I've given the answer. Either 101G doesn't understand English or he doesn't like the answer.
The proof is Jesus already bowed in the NT, and in the garden begged for salvation. He's going to do it again.
if so, he was begging for your IGNORANT self... LOL, and bowing, your knees too to the Lord Jesus, Philippians 2:10 "That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;"All knees will bow...
I already disproved this all last year. Your reference to Isaiah 41:4 was proven to refer to the generations, not a person, so try another argument.ERROR, you gave no answer, God is a plurality of himself as the ECHAD H430 אֱלֹהִים 'elohiym (el-o-heem') . but the yachid who is H433 אֱלוֹהַּ 'elowahh (el-o'-ah)
so YOU error, LETS LOOK AT THE DEFINITIONS,
I'm u8sing the Mickelson's Enhanced Strong's Dictionaries of the Greek and Hebrew Testaments for these definitions.
H430 אֱלֹהִים 'elohiym (el-o-heem') n-m.
אֱלֹהֵי 'elohiy (el-o-hee') [alternate plural]
1. (literally) supreme ones.
2. (hence, in the ordinary sense) gods.
3. (specifically, in the plural, especially with the article) the Supreme God (i.e. the all supreme).
4. (sometimes) supreme, used as a superlative.
5. (occasionally, by way of deference) supreme magistrates, the highest magistrates of the land.
6. (also) the supreme angels (entities of unspecified type).
[plural of H433]
KJV: angels, X exceeding, God (gods)(-dess, -ly), X (very) great, judges, X mighty.
Root(s): H433
THE plural OF H433? WELL LETS SEE H433,
H433 אֱלוֹהַּ 'elowahh (el-o'-ah) n-m.
אֱלֹהַּ 'eloahh (el-o'-ah) [shortened (rarely)]
1. one with supreme strength and ability.
2. the Supreme Being, God the Creator, Yahweh by name.
3. a supreme entity, a god-like creature (that is, one of God's supreme creations, or one of man's inventions).
[probably prolonged (emphat.) from H410]
KJV: God, god.
THE yachid who is H433 אֱלוֹהַּ 'elowahh (el-o'-ah). (A single person), is the H430 אֱלֹהִים 'elohiym (el-o-heem') IN THE echad as a plurality of himself. (as First and Last), which is a ORDINAL desigination).
supportive scripture, Deuteronomy 6:4 "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:"
ONE: H259 אֶחָד 'echad (ech-awd') adj.
1. (properly) united, i.e. one.
2. (as an ordinal) first.
[a numeral from H258]
KJV: a, alike, alone, altogether, and, any(-thing), apiece, a certain, (dai-)ly, each (one), + eleven, every, few, first, + highway, a man, once, one, only, other, some, together.
Root(s): H258
your mistake Jewjitzu, is that the verse says, the LORD is ONE, not "GOD". ... the LORD ... OUR GOD, meaning only the Ordinal FIRST, who is LORD is your God, but the Ordinal LAST is our God. the bible is so clear, which is the same one Person.. and here is where you're exposed. for the First and the Last is the same one GOD,
Listen and weep. Isaiah 41:4 "Who hath wrought and done it, calling the generations from the beginning? I the LORD, the first, and with the last; I am he." did you see that Jewjitzu ? the FIRST.. your God the LORD, all caps is "WITH" the Last .... I AM HE.
he, God just told you that he is the First, and the Last, one person, by using the term "WITH".... (which shows the plurality of God as the H430 אֱלֹהִים 'elohiym (el-o-heem') but since you could not comprehend what he said, using "WITH" he put it in the simplist form so all can get it, including you. LISTEN, and LEARN, Isaiah 48:12 "Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he; I am the first, I also am the last."
even a first grader can understand that the First is the same one as the last.
so, you need to go back and understand God, the H433 אֱלוֹהַּ 'elowahh (el-o'-ah) the yachid, (WHO IS ONE PERSON), as the H430 אֱלֹהִים 'elohiym (el-o-heem') in an ECHAD of ... HIS ... plurality of ONE PERSON, as FIRST, and LAST. *******
this is the whole matter. GOD IS THE EQUAL "SHARE" OF HIMSELF IN FLESH TO COME. this answer all Godhead question in the bible.
PICJAG, 101G.
PS Matthew 19:30 "But many that are first shall be last; and the last shall be first.".... that's us ... (smile).
try again... LOL, LOL, LOL.I already disproved this all last year. Your reference to Isaiah 41:4 was proven to refer to the generations, not a person, so try another argument.
Sorry, but Isaiah 45:23 doesn't mention anyone bowing to the son.if so, he was begging for your IGNORANT self... LOL, and bowing, your knees too to the Lord Jesus, Philippians 2:10 "That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;"
so Jewjitzu, are you on earth? yes, so your feeble knees will bow to the one whom you said begged for salvation? well you will begg to the begger? LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL. oh my.your begging will make your begging worest.
I'm going to ask the Lord Jesus allowe me to be present when you come before him on your knees, that's if you don't change.... (smile).
now a Revelation, Isaiah 45:21 "Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me."
Isaiah 45:22 "Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else." READ THAT VERSE AGAIN.
Isaiah 45:23 "I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear." .... (smile), how clear can one get, and How Ignorant can some be, the LORD, yes, your LORD who is God according to Deuteronomy 6:4 is the Lord Jesus..... LOL, LOL. your statement is embarrassing when you said, " in the garden begged for salvation. He's going to do it again". that's your God....... (smile) ...LOL.
PICJAG, 101G.
Rotfl... they don't help you.try again... LOL, LOL, LOL.
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you ERROR comming and going...... LOL. see ya. now read my posts carefully.. #63 and 64.
PICJAG, 101G.
that's your Ignorance talking to you..... (smile)....Sorry, but Isaiah 45:23 doesn't mention anyone bowing to the son.
Jesus was saved himself. It's in the NT.
Jesus must bow to God with his knees. It was sworn.
If you've bothered looking at the context of Isaiah 45:23, you'd know better.that's your Ignorance talking to you..... (smile)....
PICJAG 101G
Why would Jesus need to bow to the Father to declare that he was Lord? There is only one God. You must be Born Again to understand the Holy Trinity.If you've bothered looking at the context of Isaiah 45:23, you'd know better.
Since God swore all knees will bow and tongues confess He is Lord, you can't escape that Jesus will bow to the true God.
he's not born again. but there is no trinity either.Why would Jesus need to bow to the Father to declare that he was Lord? There is only one God. You must be Born Again to understand the Holy Trinity.
Maybe the terminology is not correct but there is the God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit.he's not born again. but there is no trinity either.
PICJAG. 101G.
there is only one PERSON here in Matthews 3:16 & 17 in the DIVERSITY, or in the ECHAD of Ordinal First/Father, and Ordinal Last/Son.Maybe the terminology is not correct but there is the God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit.
Matthew 3:16-17
16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: 17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. In this Scripture I see Jesus the Son Of God, the Spirit of God( like a dove) and the Father God declaring that Jesus is His Beloved Son.
Here is the answer, and position we take on Matthews 3 at the Lord Jesus Baptism.Maybe the terminology is not correct but there is the God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit.
Matthew 3:16-17
16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: 17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. In this Scripture I see Jesus the Son Of God, the Spirit of God( like a dove) and the Father God declaring that Jesus is His Beloved Son.
Because bowing is a form of worship and an acknowledgement that only the Father is the God, Exodus 20:5-6.Why would Jesus need to bow to the Father to declare that he was Lord?
Only those born again know there's nothing holy about the trinity.There is only one God. You must be Born Again to understand the Holy Trinity.
Was Jesus saved - yes or no?topic states "ONE" in heaven... ok, good, did the ONE in Heaven, come and save us from our sins? yes or no.
PICJAG, 101G.
he is salvation, ... so did he come from heaven and save us, see Isaiah 35:4 before you answer.Was Jesus saved - yes or no?