One in Heaven, no Trinity - Psalm 73:25

Jewjitzu said:
No, he cried for salvation, Hebrews 5:7. Prosenekas, offered up the petitions of a mortal man.

Bye ?.


BTW, https://biblehub.com/isaiah/35-4.htm, what recompense did Jesus give when he saved us???
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for your sins... lol. is he offering up anything NOW? ... LOL. oh my, my, my

Jewjitzu said:
BTW, https://biblehub.com/isaiah/35-4.htm, what recompense did Jesus give when he saved us???
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just what I'm doing to you right now, destroying you... LOL. which is a JUST recompense for your IGNORANCE of his NT WORD. (smile).

PICJAG, 101G.
 
101G said:
for your sins... lol. is he offering up anything NOW? ... LOL. oh my, my, my
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Doesn't say that. Lol

101G said:
just what I'm doing to you right now, destroying you... LOL. which is a JUST recompense for your IGNORANCE of his NT WORD. (smile).

PICJAG, 101G.
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Yep, you're ignorant. The recompense is against enemies and doesn't apply to Jesus. ;)
 
Jewjitzu said:
Doesn't say that. Lol
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LOL, LOL, LOL, it do,
Jewjitzu said:
Yep, you're ignorant. The recompense is against enemies and doesn't apply to Jesus
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LISTEN, and weep... (smile).Romans 11:26 "And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:"

Romans 11:28 "As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.".... LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL...Oh my.

PICJAG, 101G
 
Jewjitzu said:
Yep, you're ignorant. The recompense is against enemies and doesn't apply to Jesus
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see Jewjitzu, you're an emeny of Christ, listen, Psalms 110:1 "A Psalm of David. The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool." see you have no clue of this ... do.

and two, don't think just because it said "ALL ISRAEL" will be saved, well the question is this, WHO IS ALL ISRAEL? answer,
Romans 9:6 "Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:" Romans 9:7 "Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called." Romans 9:8 "That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed."

ONLY A REMMANT IS SAVED

lets see, you got the wrong PRIESTHOOD, and you're still in the flesh, uncircumcised of the HEART, and UN-BORN AGAIN.... from above.. Oh MY,
Lost, Lost... (smile).

PICJAG, 101G.
 
101G said:
LOL, LOL, LOL, it do,

LISTEN, and weep... (smile).Romans 11:26 "And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:"

Romans 11:28 "As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.".... LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL...Oh my.

PICJAG, 101G
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Again, the context of Isaiah 35:4 doesn't apply to Jesus.
 
101G said:
see Jewjitzu, you're an emeny of Christ, listen, Psalms 110:1 "A Psalm of David. The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool." see you have no clue of this ... do.
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Actually, the nations, gentiles are the enemies, Psalm 2:1-2. They don't recognize the true anointed one, messiah.

101G said:
and two, don't think just because it said "ALL ISRAEL" will be saved, well the question is this, WHO IS ALL ISRAEL?
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The remnant.

101G said:
answer,
Romans 9:6 "Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:" Romans 9:7 "Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called." Romans 9:8 "That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed."
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The actual seed was still the seed. Adoption wasn't the promise, Genesis 15:1-6.

101G said:
ONLY A REMMANT IS SAVED

lets see, you got the wrong PRIESTHOOD, and you're still in the flesh, uncircumcised of the HEART, and UN-BORN AGAIN.... from above.. Oh MY,
Lost, Lost... (smile).
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Not quite.

101G said:
PICJAG, 101G.
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Obi-wan Kenobi
 
Jewjitzu said:
Actually, the nations, gentiles are the enemies, Psalm 2:1-2. They don't recognize the true anointed one, messiah.
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no, U the IGNORANT Jews, not all only the IGNORANT onesI
Jewjitzu said:
The remnant.
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you got one right after 999999999+ .... wrong. (smile)
one day, not soon...... (smile)
Jewjitzu said:
The actual seed was still the seed. Adoption wasn't the promise, Genesis 15:1-6.
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I spoke to soon, just add another one to the 999999999+
PICJAG, 101G
 
101G said:
Here is the answer, and position we take on Matthews 3 at the Lord Jesus Baptism.
this is a little long, I tried to condense it. this is from my personal notes on the subject.

"the voice from heaven is this the Father's voice?". who told us that that it was. the bible never said it was the Father's voice, it said "A Voice", and the misunderstanding came in on an ASSUMPTION. many wanting to believe so hard in the three person, until they ERROR in assuming, it must be the Father's voice by what was said. this is not only a spiritual ERROR, but a big one.... never add or take away from the word of God. scripture, Matthew 3:17 "And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased." many wrongly and willing make this mistake. oh yes, it's a easy mistake to make, (for we all are human, and make mistakes)... here, we call this the "ASSUMPTION" mistake. lets examine this verse and it's implications.

first things first. in studying the bible, ... "WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT" .... he will guide US in all TRUTH. and here in this setting we need his guidance. in Hermeneutics there is a section of study called the "NEAR and FAR Application". meaning what happen before, (near), will happen again in the Future, (Far) in similar application. and here, (at the Lord Jesus baptism), is a good example of this. so let the HOLY Spirit lead us.

so "A" voice from heaven spoke, but was it God's Voice? the bible do not say, only "A VOICE", lets see in scripture when a Voice from heaven is speaking on God's behalf. the book of Genesis, God told Abraham to sacrifice his only Begotten Son... do we see any similarities here at the Lord Jesus baptism? .... "only Begotten Son". (Near, Abraham only begotten Son, and Far, God's only begotten Son) so God told Abraham to sacrifice his only Begotten Son, and when Abraham was about to do it, what happen, well let the bible tell us. Genesis 22:10 "And Abraham stretched forth his hand, and took the knife to slay his son." Genesis 22:11 "And the angel of the LORD called unto him out of heaven, and said, Abraham, Abraham: and he said, Here am I." Genesis 22:12 "And he said, Lay not thine hand upon the lad, neither do thou any thing unto him: for now I know that thou fearest God, seeing thou hast not withheld thy son, thine only son from me." HOLD IT, STOP THE PRESS, what did the angel say? listen, "seeing thou hast not withheld thy son, thine only son from me". wait a second, the angel never commanded Abraham to sacrifice his ... ONLY BEGOTTEN SON... no, God did. but is was the angel speaking from ... "heaven" on God's behalf. the verse clearly states it was the angel ... "VOICE" from heaven that spoke.

never assume anything..... KNOW. and if the bible never say it was the Father's Voice, then don't ASSUME, and ADD to God's Holy Word, because that's spiritual suicide and the road to destruction,,,, so never, ever ASSUME anything, let the bible tell you. lets go on. " Genesis 22:13 "And Abraham lifted up his eyes, and looked, and behold behind him a ram caught in a thicket by his horns: and Abraham went and took the ram, and offered him up for a burnt offering in the stead of his son." Genesis 22:14 "And Abraham called the name of that place Jehovahjireh: as it is said to this day, In the mount of the LORD it shall be seen."Genesis 22:15 "And the angel of the LORD called unto Abraham out of heaven the second time," (WHERE DID THE ANGEL VOICE COME FROM? ... THAT'S RIGHT HEAVEN). Genesis 22:16 "And said, By myself have I sworn, saith the LORD, for because thou hast done this thing, and hast not withheld thy son, thine only son:" (WAS THIS GOD SPEAKING OR THE ANGEL, the ANGEL, on GOD'S BEHALF?). Genesis 22:17 "That in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven, and as the sand which is upon the sea shore; and thy seed shall possess the gate of his enemies;" Genesis 22:18 "And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice.", when was this command, and WHO spoke to Abraham in this command? answer, Genesis 22:1 "And it came to pass after these things, that God did tempt Abraham, and said unto him, Abraham: and he said, Behold, here I am." Genesis 22:2 "And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of."

so we can see that "a Voice" from heaven is not nessary always God's VOICE, but conveys his "WORDS". so never assume anything unless the bible say so. for if we did not have the actual speaker from heaven identified, here in Genesis 22 we could ... "ASSUME" by the words spoken that it is the Father's voice. so by the guidance of the Holy Spirit we will not make this mistake of "ASSUMPTION". for when the Bible say a Voice, then we say a voice unless we're told who voice it is, (and the bible never did, not at the Lord Jesus baptism). so this MISTAKE of ASSUMPTION is corrected and exposed for what it is, a false ASSUMPTION.

hope this helped,

PICJAG, 101G.
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Who in Heaven can claim and say."This is my beloved Son? So i wont get into a debate. I will leave it for it is against the rules of the forum. Everybody has opinions.
 
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SPOKENWORD said:
Who in Heaven can claim and say."This is my beloved Son? So i wont get into a debate. I will leave it for it is against the rules of the forum. Everybody has opinions.
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claim is one thing, but saying it from HEAVEN is another... (smile), never ASSUME anything, KNOW.... this is just too easy...

PICJAG, 101G.
 
SPOKENWORD said:
I will leave it for it is against the rules of the forum. Everybody has opinions.
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no opinion, read the scripture, do it say this is the father's voice... NO, the verse says "A VOICE"., now go back and read it. see, you assumed, and added to the WQORD OF GOD.

PICJAG, 101G.
 
101G said:
did the HS tell you that it was the Father's voice from heaven? ....... please don't lie on the H/s ok,
PICJAG, 101G.
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The HS showed me through Scripture old and new that the Trinity(Father Son and Holy Spirit.) is true. Listened to a great teaching today on the Trinity through the Abrahamic Blessing in Numbers6;24-26. There is no denying that the Trinity exists.
 
SPOKENWORD said:
The HS showed me through Scripture old and new that the Trinity(Father Son and Holy Spirit.) is true. Listened to a great teaching today on the Trinity through the Abrahamic Blessing in Numbers6;24-26. There is no denying that the Trinity exists.
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Really? How did they get the trinity in those verses? BTW, the verses are called the Aaronic Blessings, or Priestly Blessings.
 
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SPOKENWORD said:
The HS showed me through Scripture old and new that the Trinity(Father Son and Holy Spirit.) is true. Listened to a great teaching today on the Trinity through the Abrahamic Blessing in Numbers6;24-26. There is no denying that the Trinity exists.
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thanks for the reply, but did you read the verses before? listen, Numbers 6:22 "And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,"
Numbers 6:23 "Speak unto Aaron and unto his sons, saying, On this wise ye shall bless the children of Israel, saying unto them,"
Numbers 6:24 "The LORD bless thee, and keep thee:"
Numbers 6:25 "The LORD make his face shine upon thee, and be gracious unto thee:"
Numbers 6:26 "The LORD lift up his countenance upon thee, and give thee peace."
Numbers 6:27 "And they shall put my name upon the children of Israel; and I will bless them."

now, if you find a trinity in theses verse please point it out to me. I see no trinity in any of those scriptures.

looking to hear your take on those scriptures.

PICJAG, 101G.
 
101G said:
thanks for the reply, but did you read the verses before? listen, Numbers 6:22 "And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,"
Numbers 6:23 "Speak unto Aaron and unto his sons, saying, On this wise ye shall bless the children of Israel, saying unto them,"
Numbers 6:24 "The LORD bless thee, and keep thee:"
Numbers 6:25 "The LORD make his face shine upon thee, and be gracious unto thee:"
Numbers 6:26 "The LORD lift up his countenance upon thee, and give thee peace."
Numbers 6:27 "And they shall put my name upon the children of Israel; and I will bless them."

now, if you find a trinity in theses verse please point it out to me. I see no trinity in any of those scriptures.

looking to hear your take on those scriptures.

PICJAG, 101G.
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It repeats the name of God three times, three times referring to the same person. It is ridiculous to say that each time the same name is used, it is referring to a different person. Your argument is utterly irrational.
 
Open Heart said:
It repeats the name of God three times, three times referring to the same person. It is ridiculous to say that each time the same name is used, it is referring to a different person. Your argument is utterly irrational.
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Yeah, pure garbage.
 
Open Heart said:
It repeats the name of God three times, three times referring to the same person. It is ridiculous to say that each time the same name is used, it is referring to a different person. Your argument is utterly irrational.
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it repeats his title "LORD"... lol, lol, ... oh my, my, my.

so try again.

PICJAG, 101G.
 
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