Overnight Supreme Court ruling against atheist/seculiar war on religion

Authentic Nouveau

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So the enemies of the WORD tried to shut down churches. The Constitution protects churches from Gubment intrusion and malice.


The hostile heathen can't prove people get sick in churches across the street from a liquor store and a lumber yard which are considered decontaminated by the brown shirts.

Fellowship is an attribute of people living meaningful lives. Anti-social agenda by malicious socialists will need to be rejected.
 

Torin

Active member
The first sentence of your own link clears up the situation:

"The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled against the state of New York and Governor Andrew Cuomo in a late night emergency ruling barring the state from reimposing limits on religious gatherings."

So they weren't shutting down churches, just imposing unusually strict limits on how many people could attend. In the middle of a pandemic.
 

Furion

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The first sentence of your own link clears up the situation:

"The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled against the state of New York and Governor Andrew Cuomo in a late night emergency ruling barring the state from reimposing limits on religious gatherings."

So they weren't shutting down churches, just imposing unusually strict limits on how many people could attend. In the middle of a pandemic.

The free exercise clause is greater than Lord Cuomo.

In this case they took the easy path, the hypocrisy angle.

The Democrats allow mass gatherings while restricting churches.

Rest assured putting a number on it is limiting the free exercise.

Lord Cuomo would lose on that angle as well.
 

Authentic Nouveau

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The first sentence of your own link clears up the situation:

"The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled against the state of New York and Governor Andrew Cuomo in a late night emergency ruling barring the state from reimposing limits on religious gatherings."

So they weren't shutting down churches, just imposing unusually strict limits on how many people could attend. In the middle of a pandemic.
That is your uncharitable political spin. It doesn't work with me.

"Court Backs Religious Challenge to Cuomo's Virus Shutdown Order "NYT

Your stunt backfires. The far left NYT tabloid even printed "shutdown order" expression.

Out of reflex atheists leap into quibbling.
 

Authentic Nouveau

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“It is time — past time — to make plain that, while the pandemic poses many grave challenges, there is no world in which the Constitution tolerates color-coded executive edicts that reopen liquor stores and bike shops but shutter churches, synagogues, and mosques,” Justice Gorsuch wrote.

These little cruel dictators seize the authority to deem which businesses are "essential" and which are not.

They deem what citizens do in gatherings as deemed essential or not.

Like the dictator in California who has electricity cut off to an area because. "the weatherman predicts wind" which can cause powerlines to fall and start fires.
 

Authentic Nouveau

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The free exercise clause is greater than Lord Cuomo.

In this case they took the easy path, the hypocrisy angle.

The Democrats allow mass gatherings while restricting churches.

Rest assured putting a number on it is limiting the free exercise.

Lord Cuomo would lose on that angle as well.
Polident-Erect Joe Biden the Chinese Poodle wants to pack the Supreme Court with liberals who spit on the Constitution.
 

jonathan_hili

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I think the West needs reasoned measured to control covid and these need to be equally applied. Ignoring the problem and thinking that mass gatherings (pardon the pun) are safe is problematic; however, limiting religious service attendance severely while being quite liberal with other areas of society is extremely unjust. Here in Melbourne, Australia (where we've thankfully been covid free for almost a month now), there have been severe restrictions, which have proven to be effective, but there were injustices involved in them too.
 

bigthinker

Active member
So the enemies of the WORD tried to shut down churches. The Constitution protects churches from Gubment intrusion and malice.


The hostile heathen can't prove people get sick in churches across the street from a liquor store and a lumber yard which are considered decontaminated by the brown shirts.

Fellowship is an attribute of people living meaningful lives. Anti-social agenda by malicious socialists will need to be rejected.
blow it out your ear; there's no war on religion. Stop playing the victim. Sheesh.
 

5wize

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So the enemies of the WORD tried to shut down churches. The Constitution protects churches from Gubment intrusion and malice.


The hostile heathen can't prove people get sick in churches across the street from a liquor store and a lumber yard which are considered decontaminated by the brown shirts.

Fellowship is an attribute of people living meaningful lives. Anti-social agenda by malicious socialists will need to be rejected.
Isn't Cuomo a Catholic?
 

bigthinker

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The free exercise clause is greater than Lord Cuomo.

In this case they took the easy path, the hypocrisy angle.

The Democrats allow mass gatherings while restricting churches.
eh? Cuomo is allowing mass democrat gatherings while restricting churches? Details please.
Rest assured putting a number on it is limiting the free exercise.

Lord Cuomo would lose on that angle as well.
And Covid is bigger and more powerful than God.
 

Authentic Nouveau

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I think the West needs reasoned measured to control covid and these need to be equally applied. Ignoring the problem and thinking that mass gatherings (pardon the pun) are safe is problematic; however, limiting religious service attendance severely while being quite liberal with other areas of society is extremely unjust. Here in Melbourne, Australia (where we've thankfully been covid free for almost a month now), there have been severe restrictions, which have proven to be effective, but there were injustices involved in them too.
Our Constitution offers specific wording which prohibits The State from interference. That prohibition is not removed because of a pandemic.
 

bigthinker

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Our Constitution offers specific wording which prohibits The State from interference. That prohibition is not removed because of a pandemic.
I'm fine with it as long as the state isn't blamed for not doing something when the rate of infection and death is higher among religious people who gathered in large numbers.
 

Beloved Daughter

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The first sentence of your own link clears up the situation:

"The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled against the state of New York and Governor Andrew Cuomo in a late night emergency ruling barring the state from reimposing limits on religious gatherings."

So they weren't shutting down churches, just imposing unusually strict limits on how many people could attend. In the middle of a pandemic.

The CDC is changing its tune. Deaths from COVID19 are still less than 1%. Now they want to change how COVID19 deaths are counted by combining pneumonia and other respiratory illnesses.

COVID-19 Provisional Counts - Weekly Updates by Select Demographic and Geographic Characteristics (cdc.gov)

My church has been meeting every Sunday as usual. John MacArthur's church Grace Community is still meeting as well. The church is at over-flow capacity.
 

Electric Skeptic

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The CDC is changing its tune. Deaths from COVID19 are still less than 1%. Now they want to change how COVID19 deaths are counted by combining pneumonia and other respiratory illnesses.

COVID-19 Provisional Counts - Weekly Updates by Select Demographic and Geographic Characteristics (cdc.gov)

My church has been meeting every Sunday as usual. John MacArthur's church Grace Community is still meeting as well. The church is at over-flow capacity.
I hope, despite the stupidity of your members, that you are all safe in this time.
 

Tiburon

Member
The CDC is changing its tune. Deaths from COVID19 are still less than 1%. Now they want to change how COVID19 deaths are counted by combining pneumonia and other respiratory illnesses.

COVID-19 Provisional Counts - Weekly Updates by Select Demographic and Geographic Characteristics (cdc.gov)

My church has been meeting every Sunday as usual. John MacArthur's church Grace Community is still meeting as well. The church is at over-flow capacity.
You can't cure stupid.
 

Authentic Nouveau

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I'm fine with it as long as the state isn't blamed for not doing something when the rate of infection and death is higher among religious people who gathered in large numbers.
You opinions are not based on science. You assume they got "infected" at the gathering. No upper level math classes?
 

bigthinker

Active member
It never occurred to me to play victim.
And that's likely the problem.
These people believe they have the all-powerful, all-knowing, all-good creator of the universe on their side and they're are whining about not being able to get together -during a pandemic?
What a bunch of myopic, self absorbed jerks. 260,000+ Americans are dead -for what logical reason has God not solved the covid problem? Perhaps two or more Christians can't agree and pray correctly? Or maybe not enough people are praying strongly enough or with enough belief?
I mean at some point, if some people are fighting for the right to get infected, shouldn't we let them? Shouldn't we let natural selection do its thing? (to be fair, natural selection is going to do its thing regardless of whether we help or not)
The problem is, that in their ignorance, they'll likely infect others without consent and that's not fair either.
 
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