Roger Thornhill
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This is in agreement with my previous remarks, so why are you bringing it up?
You said:
There is only one person mentioned in the activities of John 1:3-4. It's funny to watch you introduce things you don't understand.
There is also θεος at John 1:1b who every scholar I have read considers to be the Father. If you mean that there is no pronoun referring to him in the clause with the passive verb, my references show that both BDAG and Wallace see an ultimate agent who uses the Word as His intermediate agent in this activity.
So if you were to argue that since there is only one mentioned and so only one agent you have no support from anyone but Oneness or Biblical Unitarians.
Your moniker is a Unitarian. So you must have some fondness for their teach
If you weren't attempting to insult me, I would pity your foolishness, but as it is you deserve this. If you were less concerned with cherry picking your sources and more concerned with understanding them, you might(Now, there's a remote possibility!) have noticed that the author disagrees with the punctuation you feel is correct. This, of course, changes the meaning of the clause and verse quite a bit. So I'll let you tell me: why do you feel you can use BDAG here in support of your position when it contradicts your foundational premise?
BDAG uses the NRSV for its glosses, but presents both views. On what basis do you say they prefer the KJV punctuation?
I have not seen that, and in fact looked at each direct reference to their comments on Greek words in J 1 just yesterday to see if they did.
I did not find anything. You have said in the past that you don't have BDAG and asked that I quote it for you. Has that changed?
And I don't know why you think I haven't expressed my view about John 1. I have done such a good job doing so that you have abandoned discussion about the passage and are appealing to theological arguments from all over scripture. You know you have no answer for what I have said!
I don't recall you making any grammatical point for John 1, and to be honest when I hear bald opinions I don't retain those details as they are irrelevant to me.