Poll for Atheists: Are you a Communist, a fascist, or neither?

Torin

Member
Multiple Christians here associate atheism with Communism (like Stalin's USSR) and/or fascism (like Nazi Germany under Hitler).

So, atheists: Are you a Communist, a fascist, or neither of those?
 

Diogenes

Member
Multiple Christians here associate atheism with Communism (like Stalin's USSR) and/or fascism (like Nazi Germany under Hitler).

So, atheists: Are you a Communist, a fascist, or neither of those?
My political leanings are, to say the least, complicated, but given the options, definitely neither.
 

Mr Laurier

Active member
Multiple Christians here associate atheism with Communism (like Stalin's USSR) and/or fascism (like Nazi Germany under Hitler).

So, atheists: Are you a Communist, a fascist, or neither of those?
I am a socialist. A Menchevik socialist. I reject the Bolshevik notion that the workers need an educated elite to do our thinking for us.
I am one of the people the fascists hated and feared. And who Stalin had imprisoned.
I can recognize that some capitalism is useful. But it must be regulated.
I support labour unions, and universal sufferage. One man, one vote.
I believe that the workers need to elect workers to parliament. Not bankers and lawyers, but our fellow workers.
I read Tommy Douglas, and George Orwell. And I agree with both of them. We workers are the mice. And we need to stop voting for cats.
 
Multiple Christians here associate atheism with Communism (like Stalin's USSR) and/or fascism (like Nazi Germany under Hitler).

So, atheists: Are you a Communist, a fascist, or neither of those?
Neither. Atheism has nothing to do with a political stance. It is just the lack of belief in gods.
 

Diogenes

Member
Since atheists have no moral foundation (unlike Christians), they obviously would lie to hide their love and admiration for Stalin and Hitler.


/s
 

Temujin

Active member
Multiple Christians here associate atheism with Communism (like Stalin's USSR) and/or fascism (like Nazi Germany under Hitler).

So, atheists: Are you a Communist, a fascist, or neither of those?
Neither. I am a Liberal Democrat, which is a totally different thing in the UK than the US. Shame really. It would be great if people in the UK actually feared, or even talked about the Liberals.
 

Authentic Nouveau

Well-known member
The Bible is long time historical TESTAMENT
Flakey atheists (fresh diploma) Don't understand the word testament

But truth is Nazis, commies, Marxists, atheists all are somewhat related flavors of registered heathen.
 

Tiburon

Member
The Bible is long time historical TESTAMENT
Flakey atheists (fresh diploma) Don't understand the word testament

But truth is Nazis, commies, Marxists, atheists all are somewhat related flavors of registered heathen.
The Bible is historical fiction according to which Jesus was a communist.
 

Diogenes

Member
The Bible is long time historical TESTAMENT
Flakey atheists (fresh diploma) Don't understand the word testament

This doesn't seem hard to understand:

Testament come from testamentum, the word by which the Latin ecclesiastical writers translated the Greek diatheke. With the profane authors this latter term means always, one passage of Aristophanes perhaps excepted, the legal disposition a man makes of his goods for after his death. However, at an early date, the Alexandrian translators of the Scripture, known as the Septuagint, employed the word as the equivalent of the Hebrew berith, which means a pact, an alliance, more especially the alliance of Yahweh with Israel. In St. Paul (1 Corinthians 11:25) Jesus Christ uses the words "new testament" as meaning the alliance established by Himself between God and the world, and this is called "new" as opposed to that of which Moses was the mediator. Later on, the name of testament was given to the collection of sacred texts containing the history and the doctrine of the two alliances; here again and for the same reason we meet the distinction between the Old and New Testaments. In this meaning the expression Old Testament (he palaia diatheke) is found for the first time in Melito of Sardis, towards the year 170. There are reasons for thinking that at this date the corresponding word "testamentum" was already in use amongst the Latins. In any case it was common in the time of Tertullian.





But truth is Nazis, commies, Marxists, atheists all are somewhat related flavors of registered heathen.

Atheism itself has no socio-politcal dimension so it's not a "related flavor of registered heathen."
 

Tiburon

Member
My bad, I should have clarified my objection. The part of Jesus being a communist.
Yes your mistake.
A Socialist then? I mean the disciples held there money in common under Judas. And Jesus gave out free healthcare and sandwiches. As long as you liked fish.
 

Diogenes

Member
Yes your mistake.
A Socialist then? I mean the disciples held there money in common under Judas. And Jesus gave out free healthcare and sandwiches. As long as you liked fish.

There's not normative requirement to give up wealth, hold money in common, abolish private property, or abolish socio-political hierarchies. Jesus had no reason to acquire wealth as his purpose was spiritual nature. The biggest issue concerning wealth in the New Testament was putting material wealth before God. That doesn't demonise wealth per se.
 

The Pixie

Active member
To answer the question of the thread, I am neither.

There's not normative requirement to give up wealth, hold money in common, abolish private property, or abolish socio-political hierarchies. Jesus had no reason to acquire wealth as his purpose was spiritual nature. The biggest issue concerning wealth in the New Testament was putting material wealth before God. That doesn't demonise wealth per se.
Actually Jesus did instruct his followers to give up all there wealth. It is just inconvenient to actually do, so virtually all Christians just ignore that bit. For example, here:

Luke 6:32 ‘Do not be afraid, little flock, for your Father has been pleased to give you the kingdom. 33 Sell your possessions and give to the poor. Provide purses for yourselves that will not wear out, a treasure in heaven that will never fail, where no thief comes near and no moth destroys. 34 For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.
 

jonathan_hili

Well-known member
Multiple Christians here associate atheism with Communism (like Stalin's USSR) and/or fascism (like Nazi Germany under Hitler).

So, atheists: Are you a Communist, a fascist, or neither of those?
Funny that. I'm Catholic and would consider myself socialist-leaning.
 
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