no direct answer means evade and deny. thanks.what do you use them for? you don't read, understand or believe what they say.
no direct answer means evade and deny. thanks.what do you use them for? you don't read, understand or believe what they say.
the truth of the nt is not taught by the rcc.
Yep as I said nothing to do with your evil lying institution. It is not in the NT.
mica said:
the truth of the nt is not taught by the rcc.
balshan said:
Yep as I said nothing to do with your evil lying institution. It is not in the NT.
neither post above says that our bibles are missing the nt books.so, where did you get 27 books for your nt?
-the real presence of Jesus Christ in the consecrated brad and winewhen will you answer my questions?
neither post above says that our bibles are missing the nt books.
what they do say is that what the rcc claims is said in those books is not actually found in those books. nor has any catholic here been able to post verses that do support the rcc false teachings.
who knows where the rcc gets its false teachings, but it isn't from God's word.
maybe from a rcc course on fiction writing...
Yep as I said nothing to do with your evil lying institution. It is not in the NT.
sorry, but the sinfulness or sinlessness of the valid minister has nothing to do with consecration.Not the point I was making, the fact that you do not understand that it includes the ministers shows that you do not know God.
wrong. the 2nd answer is wrong also. so you don't know the mysteries or who specifically revealed them to Paul.-the real presence of Jesus Christ in the consecrated brad and wine
- it was God who revealed it to Paul
and you understand nothing in any of them?- all his epistles
wrong also. that is false and certainly is not necessary for salvation.-i already gave you the epistle, chapter. please backread.
- 1cor11: 24-26
balshan said:
Not the point I was making, the fact that you do not understand that it includes the ministers shows that you do not know God.
your priests aren't consecrated by God.sorry, but the sinfulness or sinlessness of the valid minister has nothing to do with consecration.
The poster wishes that is what we said. But unfortunately for him, that is not the claim at all. They just ignore what is written in the NT and try and take the credit for the books from God to them. There myths come from the founder of their institution the father of lies.neither post above says that our bibles are missing the nt books.
what they do say is that what the rcc claims is said in those books is not actually found in those books. nor has any catholic here been able to post verses that do support the rcc false teachings.
who knows where the rcc gets its false teachings, but it isn't from God's word.
maybe from a rcc course on fiction writing...
Not from your evil institution which did not exist in the NT.so, where did you get 27 books for your nt?
Not from your evil institution which did not exist in the NT.so, where did you get 27 books for your nt?
It was not revealed to Paul at all. You left out where Paul says very clearly it is a remembrance of me.-the real presence of Jesus Christ in the consecrated brad and wine
- it was God who revealed it to Paul
- all his epistles
-i already gave you the epistle, chapter. please backread.
- 1cor11: 24-26
No we didn't get them from your evil institution. God gave us the book, God protected His word.yes, your bible has the 27 nt books and you got it from the catholic church.
if not, tell us where you got it?
Sorry it is really bad they are sinning against Jesus according to 1 Cor 11 and they are not valid ministers at all. Look at the requirments of ministers set out by Paul. They fail the good reputation test, they do not have a wife, they are not gentle, they lack self control, they are not above reproach, they fail the test. The number is not small it includes most of your leadership because scripture clearly says that those who know of the sin and ignore it are part of that sin. From testimonies at the Royal Commission we know for every abusive, child molesting priests there were 7 to 8 who knew about them.sorry, but the sinfulness or sinlessness of the valid minister has nothing to do with consecration.
yes, your bible has the 27 nt books and you got it from the catholic church.
if not, tell us where you got it?
if not, tell us where you got it?
The poster just ignores this answer.God. Is your church God?
Of course. They think they produced the bible. Arrogance at its best. Or worst depending on your perspective.The poster just ignores this answer.
looks like you are always correct. can you back up your personal interpretations with how the early church understood it?here are my questions
can you post even 1 of the mysteries that Paul revealed? or how he came to know that mystery?
how many of the books that he wrote have you read? a chapter in any of them?
can you post what Paul wrote about that is necessary for salvation?
wrong. the 2nd answer is wrong also. so you don't know the mysteries or who specifically revealed them to Paul.
and you understand nothing in any of them?
wrong also. that is false and certainly is not necessary for salvation.
if you can't post the actual verses, don't expect a reply from me. as is usual when you just cite a verse, what it actually does say isn't what you think it says. looking them up is useless. do you get those vs cites from the ccc?
that's a big NO, I'm not 'back reading'. quote the post you're replying to because i won't respond / chase into a catholic rabbit hole.
no, my church got it through the guidance of the holy spirit. how about you?God. Is your church God?
so, who does the testing... you?Sorry it is really bad they are sinning against Jesus according to 1 Cor 11 and they are not valid ministers at all. Look at the requirments of ministers set out by Paul. They fail the good reputation test, they do not have a wife, they are not gentle, they lack self control, they are not above reproach, they fail the test. The number is not small it includes most of your leadership because scripture clearly says that those who know of the sin and ignore it are part of that sin. From testimonies at the Royal Commission we know for every abusive, child molesting priests there were 7 to 8 who knew about them.
1 Tim 3:1+
The saying is trustworthy: If anyone aspires to the office of overseer, he desires a noble task. Therefore an overseer must be above reproach, the husband of one wife, sober-minded, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, not a drunkard, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money. He must manage his own household well, with all dignity keeping his children submissive, for if someone does not know how to manage his own household, how will he care for God's church? ...
1 Tim 3:10
And let them also be tested first; then let them serve as deacons if they prove themselves blameless.
They are not valid ministers.