Preaching the Gospel !

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brightfame52

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Rom 1 :16

16For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

I am going to get straight to the point, and that is, there is simply no gospel being preached without preaching the doctrine of election [election of grace], and the fact that the Gospel begins in God [Rom 1:1] as the Gospel of God, As it proceeds from the Eternal Counsels of God as its root and foundation, for this evident from pauls writings here 2 Tim 1:8-11


8Be not thou therefore ashamed of the testimony of our Lord, nor of me his prisoner: but be thou partaker of the afflictions of the gospel according to the power of God;

9Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,

10But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel:

11Whereunto I am appointed a preacher, and an apostle, and a teacher of the Gentiles.

Also Titus 1:1-2


1Paul, a servant of God, and an apostle of Jesus Christ, according to the faith of God's elect, and the acknowledging of the truth which is after godliness;

2In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began; 3But hath in due times manifested his word through preaching, which is committed unto me according to the commandment of God our Saviour;

This Gospel of God elucidates How that God in Eternity Past, chooses a Special Beloved People, to Be His Portion, His Inheritance, to whom He prized and Valued above all others..

Deut 32:9

9 For the LORD's portion is his people; Jacob is the lot of his inheritance.

Deut 7:6

6 For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.

Paul writes on the Saints being Gods Inheritance Eph 1:18

The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints, [not the children of the devil]

God having chosen them and gave them to the Son of His Love for their personal safe keeping and preservation Jn 17:2

2As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him. [the disciples, save judas, represented all them given to Jesus Christ]

Now God the Father, decreeing to make manifest this Great Love, He has for His Son, and His chosen in Him and with Him, decree their awful fall in Adam, of which He covenanted with His Son for their recovery, and redemption, through His blood [ Eph 1:7]

And in line with this purpose, God also decreed for some of mankind to come into this world, also having a terrible fall in their Father the devil, but in order to Show His High Sovereignty in dispensing His salvation blessings, God purposed not to have mercy on that portion of mankind, Hence, distinctly making Manifest His Special Love for His chosen Inheritance..

Micah 7:18

Who is a God like unto thee, that pardoneth iniquity, and passeth by the transgression of the remnant of his heritage [inheritance]? he retaineth not his anger for ever, because he delighteth in mercy.

This must be preached in the Gospel of Christ, we cannot be ashamed of !
 
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brightfame52

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In continuing with the gospel, and some of its vital doctrinal truths that must be proclaimed, God through the blood of Jesus Christ had determined to bestow upon His chosen people, the elect, Faith and Repentance with the remission of Sins..

Those preaching a false gospel, have taken what God has promised to give and bestow upon His children, i.e Faith and Repentance and have turned them into conditions of salvation, duties that one must perform to get saved. But this is a perversion of the truth of the gospel..

We see here that repentance and faith are freely bestowed upon a certain definite people:

Zech 12:10

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And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem,[particular people] the spirit of grace and of supplications:[repentance] and they shall look [believe in /Faith] upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn [repentance] for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

This picture is what occurred specifically on the day of pentecost in Acts 2..

And is the grand example of what occurs with all of Gods elect some time during their journey on earth..

The thief on the cross experienced it in the very twilight of his life..

So instead of preaching repentance and faith as conditions for salvation [false gospel] they should as peter did, be preaching that God through Jesus their Saviour gives [not offers] repentance and remission of Sins to the elect, the Israel of God..

Acts 5:30-31

30The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree.

31Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.
 
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TomFL

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brightfame52 said:
16For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

I am going to get straight to the point, and that is, there is simply no gospel being preached without preaching the doctrine of election [election of grace], and the fact that the Gospel begins in God [Rom 1:1] as the Gospel of God, As it proceeds from the Eternal Counsels of God as its root and foundation, for this evident from pauls writings here 2 Tim 1:8-11
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The bible does not teach your theology of unconditional particular election

It teaches salvation upon faith

John 3:14–16 —NASB
““And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up;
that whoever believes may in Him have eternal life.
¶ “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish, but have eternal life.”

John 3:36 —NASB
““He who believes in the Son has eternal life; but he who does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.””

John 5:24 —NASB
““Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.”

John 6:40 —NASB
““For this is the will of My Father, that everyone who beholds the Son and believes in Him, may have eternal life; and I Myself will raise him up on the last day.””

John 6:47 —NASB
““Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes has eternal life.”
 
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brightfame52

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TomFL said:
The bible does not teach your theology of unconditional particular election

It teaches salvation upon faith

John 3:14–16 —NASB
““And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up;
that whoever believes may in Him have eternal life.
¶ “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish, but have eternal life.”

John 3:36 —NASB
““He who believes in the Son has eternal life; but he who does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.””

John 5:24 —NASB
““Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.”

John 6:40 —NASB
““For this is the will of My Father, that everyone who beholds the Son and believes in Him, may have eternal life; and I Myself will raise him up on the last day.””

John 6:47 —NASB
““Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes has eternal life.”
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Did you read the op carefully? Let's go over the details
 
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TomFL

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brightfame52 said:
Did you read the op carefully? Let's go over the details
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I repeat the bible does not teach unconditional particular election
I posted a number of verses showing salvation is conditioned by faith

you need to address them and find proof for your doctrine of unconditional particular election
 
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brightfame52

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TomFL said:
I repeat the bible does not teach unconditional particular election
I posted a number of verses showing salvation is conditioned by faith

you need to address them and find proof for your doctrine of unconditional particular election
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You don't understand the gospel. I will be showing the gospel of Grace. There's no gospel apart from unconditional election of Grace!
 
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TomFL

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brightfame52 said:
You don't understand the gospel. I will be showing the gospel of Grace. There's no gospel apart from unconditional election of Grace!
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That is not proof

That is simply you reciting your theology

Provide book, chapter and verse
 
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brightfame52

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In line with preaching the Gospel, it has as one of its major tenants of truth, the Grace of God, so much so, paul says this Acts 20:24

24But none of these things move me, neither count I my life dear unto myself, so that I might finish my course with joy, and the ministry, which I have received of the Lord Jesus, to testify the gospel of the grace of God.


One of the prevailing myths and deceptions in our day and time, is that God offers grace to all men [individually] and its up to them to either accept it or reject it
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That cannot be further from the truth..


So when witnessing to the Grace of God, one must highlight those things that the scripture has to Say regarding Gods Grace..

Gods grace originates in Him and His Eternal Purpose in Jesus christ 2 Tim 1:9

9Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us [The elect deed] in Christ Jesus before the world began,

Eph 3:10-11

10To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God,

11According to the eternal purpose which he purposed in Christ Jesus our Lord:


Yes, before the world began, Grace was given us [ the elect] in christ Jesus, it was Given Him by God the Father, whom had set him up as The GodMan Mediator for His People..we were representively in Him as we were later to be representively in adam..

And it was at this time in eternity that the gracious promise of Eternal Life was given us in and by our Head, The Lord Jesus christ..Titus 1:2

2In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised [ to Jesus christ as the Head of the church] before the world began;


This aspect of sacred truth is indespensible in proclaiming the Gospel of the Grace of God..

its vital to remember that the grace was given to us before the world began..not offered, or made available but given..

Gods Grace is not offered, but given to a specific people..given is in the aorist past tense, so its a done deal..

Now lets look at the fact that salvation Grace is not offered but given.. as our text in 2 Tim 1 points out:

by contrast we see grace is given Jn 1:17

For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came [given] by Jesus Christ.

Now, was the Law offered by moses ? No, it was given and that effectually.. and also, neither Gods Law nor Gods grace are given without discrimination, but to a certain people.. concerning the law, it was given to the nation of Israel, Gods earthly people for a time, but grace is given to Gods spiritual People [ Spiritual Israel] for all time..

Next Rom 12:3

For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith.


Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, whether prophecy, let us prophesy according to the proportion of faith;

Rom 15:15

Nevertheless, brethren, I have written the more boldly unto you in some sort, as putting you in mind, because of the grace that is given to me of God,


1 Cor 1:4

I thank my God always on your behalf, for the grace of God which is given you by Jesus Christ;

1 Cor 3 :10

According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon

Gal 2:9

And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.

Eph 3:2

If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward:


Eph 3:7

Whereof I was made a minister, according to the gift of the grace of God given unto me by the effectual working of his power.

For paul as all the elect of God, was saved by Grace given him..

Eph 3:8

Unto me, who am less than the least of all saints, is this grace given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ;

Eph 4:7

But unto every one of us [ paul and other elect] is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ.


Not one time is Grace said to be offered, or made available, for that is simply a invention of men..
 
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