Each villain in history is the measure of the depravity of that generation. That is not an argument in favor of abortion...again murdering indiscriminately for fear of a Torquemada. Watch history and see how that works. Roman society bred a Caligula, and the continued depravity of the culture raised entertainment to the pit of Vespasian's ColosseumAnother non-argument. For every Shakespeare there is a Torquemada. For every Martin Luther there is a Hitler (They were actually quite similar in some ways.) The potential of the conceived embryo is no more significant than the potential of the contents of a used condom.
Pro-choice doesn't mean that it's my choice. I don't wish death on anybody, and I speak as one who has fought, and killed in battle.[/quote]I get that...Pro-choice is capitulation. It's not you destroying your own offspring. It's also denial...You refuse to admit that the child inside, is of an entirely other DNA, life, blood type than that of the mother. It's not OK precisely because it's not "her own body," but the child that has been entrusted to her...or forced upon her by a criminal unwilling or uncaring to take responsibility for his own savage selfishness.No, it is not more dead that the planet needs, but fewer living. Most people can tell the difference.
You, as a teacher, are more responsible than any other for the words you choose to convey your ideas. Each word is a seed that bears fruit...that for which you are not absolved. If you mislead another to believe that one is "free" to choose whatever one wants, without consequence your own guilt mingles with the choice they made.As a teacher, I know that it isn't about me. My feelings, whatever they may be, are irrelevant. My task is to enable those who have decisions to make, to make them with as much knowledge and as few barriers as possible.
Circumstances are immaterial. Consequences bring fruit.Lol! You have absolutely know idea of the circumstances.
That much is clear...that does not absolve you of responsibility. God's existence is not dependent on you believing in Him any more than a chair depends on the faith of the one who sits in it. Not believing in apples might prevent you from enjoying one...but that's not the apple's loss. It's yours.You just make assumptions about "convenience". I don't act on God's behalf anymore than I act on behalf of Thor, or Shiva, or Big Ears. Your beliefs have no impact whatever on my actions.
Some might argue otherwise. The interesting thing is...they're actually reversing the devastation. National Geographic is reporting that the North Aral Sea has been restored to where fishing is again permissible...Life can be restored, unless it's human life. That is still evil.Evil is an over-used term for things that we would rather not happen. Your example is irrelevant. An interesting story, but no link to abortion.
You are clearly not illiterate. Stop using that as an excuse for illiteracy. The reason that piece of literature has survived the millennia is that it speaks well to those who claim to be atheist.I am an atheist. Bible verses leave me completely unmoved.
I'm fascinated to watch others respond to the threat a piece of literature poses.That is not why I am pro-choice. I know Christians who are pro-choice and atheists who are anti-abortion. There are probably some of each reading these posts. I am also not Canadian, and have no interest in what Canadians are permitted to listen to (read?) on the radio.
I never need to persuade you of anything. Truth needs no ally. It's the only indelible substance in the universe. Your unbelief doesn't erase or establish it. If you die unconvinced, you'll still have to face the Truth that you so strongly opposed. It's the nature of truth.If this is an attempt to persuade me that God exists, that there is life after death, that the unborn foetus is a child with the capacity to listen to reason, then it has failed.
Immaterial to the argument. I know the effect of unbridled libido...and those who profit from it.Yet you would happily vote for measures that forced those poor to bring unwanted children into the world without any attempt to support them, while all the while offering sanctimonious prayers to the value of life. Do you know the child mortality rate in the US?
I'm glad at least that you agree that you contradicted yourself.Indeed it does. So for the heterosexual at least effective sex education, freely available contraception and advice and guidance on abortion, are all vital elements of public health.
Wahahahahaha....That's because you believe in what's being pushed as a drug, and calling it "norm". You're dead wrong, and that's why your argument fails. Abstinence is a choice of moral character, which, contrary to your claim, exists in the least. Claim it's not true, and explain why the graffiti goes up on the bathroom wall when a breach has been made to the honor of a young lady.It is perverse and abnormal, which is why it so seldom occurs.
Abstinence fails all the time, due to a completely understandable failure of will. Continued voluntary abstinence is both perverse and abnormal.
When honor is taught, abstinence is the only honest choice. Immorality is not normal...it's aberrant.
We will disagree. You are wrong, and history itself argues against your stand. No society has ever gone the direction of the USA and survived fifty years beyond that choice.Morality is not a public anything. Morality is personal and subjective. It might drive a person to seek a particular policy direction, but no-one has a monopoly on morality.
We can talk again in a decade. The US, without repentance and revival, as England experienced in the days of the Wesley brothers will be going down first. Pride, fulness of bread, abundance of idleness...and there is no care for the poor and the needy. Proud, fat, and they entertain themselves to death. The symptoms of ruin since the days of Sodom and Gomorrah.
Again, we disagree. The male is not absolved of his responsibility. Or of the blood guilt.There are not three human beings involved. There is one person, and one potential person. That's it.
Your view doesn't matter in the discussion. You did not skip a step. At any moment, the light of this brilliant strand would have been extinguished. Every post proves that surviving gestation through every trimester is essential for brilliance.If you want to discuss the point that I believe that a person becomes a person, then that would probably be better done separately. You can argue as much as you like that the embryo is a person, but that doesn't make it so. Greater minds than ours have thought this through and made a decision.
You would not be a good counselor...ignoring as you are the basic facts of a pregnancy. The child you pretend doesn't exist, is in constant communication with its mother...concerning mood, comfort, likes and needs in her breast milk.No, this is not a "three-way conversation". It is a decision to be made by the single human mind with any say in the matter. There is no conversation, which implies advocacy or persuasion. There is a giving and receiving of information, a decision, then a giving and receiving of support, whatever form that decision takes. The only persuasion I would presume to give a pregnant woman considering an abortion, would be an attempt to persuade her that she should make the choice based on her own needs and wishes, not those of her parents, the putative father or his parents, or society at large. Every person's circumstances are unique, and no one knows them better than the person themselves. If she wishes to consider the "potential" of the life growing inside her, then she will do so. It is not my job to persuade her either way. Neither is it your job, or God's. There is only one life of consequence at stake, hers.