Proof that 95% of hospitalizations and deaths are from the unvaccinated.

shnarkle

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According to the Chronicle editorial board, “the unvaccinated account for over 95% of hospitalizations and deaths.”

In an August 5, 2021, video statement, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention director Dr. Rochelle Walensky noted that this statistic was obtained by looking at hospitalization and mortality data from January through June 2021 — a timeframe during which the vast majority of the United States population were unvaccinated.


January 1, 2021, only 0.5% of the U.S. population had received a COVID shot. By mid-April, an estimated 31% had received one or more shots, and as of June 15, 48.7% were fully “vaccinated.”




The CDC has also pointed out that you are not considered “fully vaccinated” until two weeks after your second dose (in the case of Pfizer or Moderna), which is given six weeks after your first shot. This means that if you receive your first dose on June 1, you won’t be “fully vaccinated” until eight weeks later, around August 1.

So, the narrative that we’re in a “pandemic of the unvaccinated” was created by using statistics from a time period when the U.S. as a whole was largely unvaccinated. When you look at more recent data, the trend is swinging in the opposite direction.
 

shnarkle

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August 1, 2021, Dr. Sharon Alroy-Preis, director of Israel’s Public Health Services, announced half of all COVID-19 infections were among the fully vaccinated.

A few days later, August 5, Dr. Kobi Haviv, director of the Herzog Hospital in Jerusalem, appeared on Channel 13 News, reporting that 95% of severely ill COVID-19 patients are fully vaccinated, and that they make up 85% to 90% of COVID related hospitalizations overall.


 

shnarkle

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shnarkle

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A CDC investigation of an outbreak in Barnstable County, Massachusetts between July 6 through July 25, 2021, found 74% of those who received a diagnosis of COVID19, and 80% of hospitalizations, were among the fully vaccinated. Most, but not all, had the Delta variant.


 

shnarkle

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Carnival cruise lines experienced an outbreak despite every last person on that ship having proof of COVID “vaccination.” The cruise liner had even intentionally reduced capacity from 4,000 to 2,800 to provide ample social distancing capability. None of the measures worked. People got sick anyway. The shot doesn’t provide immunity, only symptom reduction.

 

Authentic Nouveau

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Carnival cruise lines experienced an outbreak despite every last person on that ship having proof of COVID “vaccination.” The cruise liner had even intentionally reduced capacity from 4,000 to 2,800 to provide ample social distancing capability. None of the measures worked. People got sick anyway. The shot doesn’t provide immunity, only symptom reduction.

Shot doesn't provide immunity.

That is a sales pitch for vaccines.

Ambiguity increasing deception is a military tactic.
 

Whateverman

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So, the narrative that we’re in a “pandemic of the unvaccinated” was created by using statistics from a time period when the U.S. as a whole was largely unvaccinated.
And?

It would be fully-consistent with the claim that the vast majority of people being hospitalized and dying from COVID-19 today are also unvaccinated.

When you look at more recent data, the trend is swinging in the opposite direction.
Nope. It isn't.

 
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vibise

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According to the Chronicle editorial board, “the unvaccinated account for over 95% of hospitalizations and deaths.”

In an August 5, 2021, video statement, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention director Dr. Rochelle Walensky noted that this statistic was obtained by looking at hospitalization and mortality data from January through June 2021 — a timeframe during which the vast majority of the United States population were unvaccinated.


January 1, 2021, only 0.5% of the U.S. population had received a COVID shot. By mid-April, an estimated 31% had received one or more shots, and as of June 15, 48.7% were fully “vaccinated.”




The CDC has also pointed out that you are not considered “fully vaccinated” until two weeks after your second dose (in the case of Pfizer or Moderna), which is given six weeks after your first shot. This means that if you receive your first dose on June 1, you won’t be “fully vaccinated” until eight weeks later, around August 1.

So, the narrative that we’re in a “pandemic of the unvaccinated” was created by using statistics from a time period when the U.S. as a whole was largely unvaccinated. When you look at more recent data, the trend is swinging in the opposite direction.
I think the claims that the unvaccinated account for most hospitalizations comes from the current ICU population in the USA, which are mostly unvaccinated.
according to dozens of hospitals across the nation surveyed by ABC News, very few fully vaccinated people are actually ending up severely ill and in the ICU with COVID-19.

And experts say that those that do, tend to be frail or have conditions that interfere with the vaccine's effectiveness at producing protection.



ABC News contacted 50 hospitals in 17 states, and asked them to share data on their ICU wards' current COVID-19 patients, including their vaccination status. In the surveyed hospitals, ABC News found that the overwhelming majority of COVID-19 patients currently being treated in ICUs were unvaccinated.

Of the 271 total COVID patients in the surveyed ICUs, 255 patients, or approximately 94%, were unvaccinated against COVID-19 in ABC News' snapshot in time.


“Ninety-nine percent of the patients being admitted are unvaccinated,” she said. “They’re sicker when they get here. They require more acute care while they’re here. And unfortunately, many of them are not surviving.”\

 

Authentic Nouveau

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In Scotland, official data on hospitalizations and deaths show 87% of those who have died from COVID-19 in the third wave that began in early July were vaccinated,26 and in Gibraltar, which has a 99% COVID jab compliance rate, COVID cases have risen by 2,500% since June 1, 2021.


It doesn't prevent transmission either

There's talk of vaccinating the military which some think could destroy the military.
Our ruler rules by whim. He wants to slash Medicare disbursement to Nursing Homes where not all are jabbed.
I don't think the President can stop Medicare reimbursement which is law.
 

shnarkle

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Our ruler rules by whim.
I doubt it. He's a puppet if there ever was one.
He wants to slash Medicare disbursement to Nursing Homes where not all are jabbed.
He doesn't have a coherent thought running through his hatchet shaped little head. You give him way too much credit.
I don't think the President can stop Medicare reimbursement which is law.
The economy will collapse and do it for the powers that be. Remember, there has to be a complete collapse of the structure before anyone can "build back better".
 

LifeIn

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A few days later, August 5, Dr. Kobi Haviv, director of the Herzog Hospital in Jerusalem, appeared on Channel 13 News, reporting that 95% of severely ill COVID-19 patients are fully vaccinated, and that they make up 85% to 90% of COVID related hospitalizations overall.
I don't know where Dr. Haviv is getting his data, but it does not appear to reflect the situation in Israel:
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news...e-already-been-inoculated-for-covid-1.9626604
 

LifeIn

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In Scotland, official data on hospitalizations and deaths show 87% of those who have died from COVID-19 in the third wave that began in early July were vaccinated,
They are still much more likely to die if they are unvaccinated. Scotland has a high vaccinate rate, and among the most vulnerable to serious disease it is even higher than the general population. As we near full vaccination, of course the statistics will show that whatever deaths there are will be among the vaccianted.


26 and in Gibraltar
Gibraltar is a special case and not representative of any other country.

, which has a 99% COVID jab compliance rate, COVID cases have risen by 2,500% since June 1, 2021.
Rates have risen, but they would have risen even more without vaccination.
 

Yakuda

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According to the Chronicle editorial board, “the unvaccinated account for over 95% of hospitalizations and deaths.”

In an August 5, 2021, video statement, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention director Dr. Rochelle Walensky noted that this statistic was obtained by looking at hospitalization and mortality data from January through June 2021 — a timeframe during which the vast majority of the United States population were unvaccinated.


January 1, 2021, only 0.5% of the U.S. population had received a COVID shot. By mid-April, an estimated 31% had received one or more shots, and as of June 15, 48.7% were fully “vaccinated.”




The CDC has also pointed out that you are not considered “fully vaccinated” until two weeks after your second dose (in the case of Pfizer or Moderna), which is given six weeks after your first shot. This means that if you receive your first dose on June 1, you won’t be “fully vaccinated” until eight weeks later, around August 1.

So, the narrative that we’re in a “pandemic of the unvaccinated” was created by using statistics from a time period when the U.S. as a whole was largely unvaccinated. When you look at more recent data, the trend is swinging in the opposite direction.
So?
 

Authentic Nouveau

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Authentic Nouveau

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They are still much more likely to die if they are unvaccinated. Scotland has a high vaccinate rate, and among the most vulnerable to serious disease it is even higher than the general population. As we near full vaccination, of course the statistics will show that whatever deaths there are will be among the vaccianted.



Gibraltar is a special case and not representative of any other country.


Rates have risen, but they would have risen even more without vaccination.
Outsider opinion.

You shoot down Gibraltar because they don't fit your outsider opinions?

The "would have risen more" is something you people have no way of proving.

Your emotion driven notions are not based on solid epidemiology best practices.
 
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