Protest updates II

[vibise]

With or without a trial?

??? Who should be put on trial?

 

[BMS]

Sure they can stop working, but parking their trucks to block interstate commerce or business and residential areas for weeks on end is not an appropriate response. I hope they are fined and jailed.

I have agreed that bad things happened at BLM protests, but the point of the protests was to object to injustices.
Bad things have resulted from the trucker protest, the point of which is that the truckers don't want to follow rules and laws set up by a democratically elected govt.

Mixed message in your opinions

 

[glenlogie]

??? Who should be put on trial?

Anyone charged with breaking the law.

 

[glenlogie]

The air traffic controllers were govt employees who went on strike to protest low pay and working conditions.
The truckers are protesting government rules dealing with a pandemic.

The govt fired and fined the air traffic controllers.
So far the govt has done little against the truckers.

But somehow the Reagan govt is heroic but the Trudeau govt is evil.
I don't get this, except to note that partisans praise their side, ignoring parallels.

So in your opinion government workers have more rights than non government workers. Got it.

 

[BMS]

Actually, there are big differences between socialism and communism.

The truckers are protesting policies that expect all citizens to be responsible and take simple measures to protect their communities. I see nothing evil in that expectation.

Yes I agree there is a over reach of the government

 

[glenlogie]

The air traffic controllers were govt employees who went on strike to protest low pay and working conditions.
The truckers are protesting government rules dealing with a pandemic.

The govt fired and fined the air traffic controllers.
So far the govt has done little against the truckers.

But somehow the Reagan govt is heroic but the Trudeau govt is evil.
I don't get this, except to note that partisans praise their side, ignoring parallels.

the government was not their employer. Big difference

 

[glenlogie]

Sure they can stop working, but parking their trucks to block interstate commerce or business and residential areas for weeks on end is not an appropriate response. I hope they are fined and jailed.

I have agreed that bad things happened at BLM protests, but the point of the protests was to object to injustices.
Bad things have resulted from the trucker protest, the point of which is that the truckers don't want to follow rules and laws set up by a democratically elected govt.

so No protest of a government is to be allowed.

 

[Leatherneck0311]

I am not ignoring that.
Someone in Ottawa tried to set fire to a building but was not successful.

Very bad things have happened at both protests, but the RW is avoiding acknowledging the damage the truckers are doing.

Not the truckers but the wackos that want to make the truckers look bad.

 

[Yakuda]

Sure they can stop working, but parking their trucks to block interstate commerce or business and residential areas for weeks on end is not an appropriate response. I hope they are fined and jailed.

I have agreed that bad things happened at BLM protests, but the point of the protests was to object to injustices.
Bad things have resulted from the trucker protest, the point of which is that the truckers don't want to follow rules and laws set up by a democratically elected govt.

It's appropriate when no one listens when you try talking nicely.

So BLM has legitimate gripes but not the truckers.

Then maybe they shouldn't have ticked off the truckers. You're never the problem are you vibise? This is why I have no positive regard for you or your positions.

 

[wiseones2cents]

They are arresting people but this is just the beginning of birth pangs. Its not over by a long shot. The protesters will regroup, more stronger and more organized.....

 

[wiseones2cents]

UN planes in Ontario. Some indicating the riot police came from foreign countries!! NWO???

 

[DeSanto]

Premiers of Canada are starting to listen to reason! Feb 17 we are starting to open and vaccine passports are finished as of March 1st! Therefore I will be taking a break from this Forum, until something really stupid happens again.

Trudeau continues to abuse his authority and continues to escalate the situation with Emergency acts.(Which I believe failed parliament), YAH CANADA!!!

Freezing personal bank accounts, removing their vehicle insurance, charges, ect....

The truckers in Ottawa which is the main wing of the convoy is much more organized than Trudeau bargained for, and they aren't leaving till Trudeau not only leaves office but may face criminal charges for lying to the public! He is responsible for vaccinating millions of children and GOD FORBID, if there are any side effects, he and his cabal will pay dearly!!!

Thank you Truckers for showing the world that with peace, love and unity we can prevail over tyranny!!!!

Interesting disclaimer just put out by Patrick M Byrne:

SLOW THOUGHTS ON CONVOY:
DON’T!!!

Myself and the America Project are respectfully stepping away from support or endorsement of any convoy. It is my belief that they are thoroughly penetrated by the Left, people who are licking their chops about the possibility of creating another J6 but this one with trucks.

In the meantime, I think we win the information war over the next eight weeks. This we have everything to lose, and nothing concrete and specific to gain.

Don’t fall into the trap.

At the very least, do not converge on Washington DC. Not even on the Beltway. I encourage people to disband that plan entirely, at the very least, and consider other rallying points.

But what I really suggest is that everybody understand these convoys are heavily penetrated by the Left, who want to turn them into disasters for us.

 

[Thistle]

UN planes in Ontario. Some indicating the riot police came from foreign countries!! NWO???

I certainly hope that Justin Trudeau is held to account for this criminal activity. This invocation of the emergency act was never authorized and under law it could not begin until it was authorized. Now apparently convinced that the Canadian Senate would not rubberstamp Trudeau's strong arm job in the house of commons Trudeau declares victory disinvokes the emergency act and never gets it approved. He needs to be hauled before the international court of justice in The Hague.

 

[wiseones2cents]

Interesting disclaimer just put out by Patrick M Byrne:

SLOW THOUGHTS ON CONVOY:
DON’T!!!

Myself and the America Project are respectfully stepping away from support or endorsement of any convoy. It is my belief that they are thoroughly penetrated by the Left, people who are licking their chops about the possibility of creating another J6 but this one with trucks.

In the meantime, I think we win the information war over the next eight weeks. This we have everything to lose, and nothing concrete and specific to gain.

Don’t fall into the trap.

At the very least, do not converge on Washington DC. Not even on the Beltway. I encourage people to disband that plan entirely, at the very least, and consider other rallying points.

But what I really suggest is that everybody understand these convoys are heavily penetrated by the Left, who want to turn them into disasters for us.

Even if they are "planned" (which I doubt), The convoy showed us that there is power in then people. Had the convoy been about double(or more)people? There is no way the cops could have intervened, forcing Trudeau to step down.

Having a civilian military/national guard is key. Remember many police officers and soldiers, did not want to harm their own people at the convoy.

Now Veterans from all over the country are upset at how Veterans were treated at the convoy.

 

[4givenmuch]

Maybe some of that will go to paying for the damage they did.

They didn't do any damage unless you are talking about honking their horns. The left thinks that's damage because that's all the have got.

 

[4givenmuch]

The ability to protest is important, but that does not include any right to interfere with international commerce for weeks on end to the tune of over $1billion, and to clog up the Capital city interfering with emergency vehicles and forcing businesses to close and spewing diesel fumes into the air.

I gather you were equally supportive of protestors in Portland who took over a section of that city, or Occupy Wall Street who took over a park in NYC, right?

They were asked to leave and they did peacefully.

 

[4givenmuch]

The Portland protest was about social justice and police brutality towards minorities.

Estimated damages from the entire set of BLM associated riots is about the same as the truck protests in Canada, and that truck protest is still going on, so the damage costs will go up. The truck protests have interfered with international commerce resulting in shutting down whole factories, and the blocked streets have caused businesses to shut down and interfered with emergency vehicles. I am not the blind one.

They left the border peacefully and the street were never blocked in Ottawa. There was always one lane open except for one street and the police said that was fine as long as the main streets were open.
Ask us Canadians how much we have lost these past 2 years.

 

[Yakuda]

So in your opinion government workers have more rights than non government workers. Got it.

Yes of course. Dont you know that agents of the govt are superior to us, the unwashed masses?

 

[4givenmuch]

I am not ignoring that.
Someone in Ottawa tried to set fire to a building but was not successful.

Very bad things have happened at both protests, but the RW is avoiding acknowledging the damage the truckers are doing.

They were not connected to the convoy in anyway. The police already confirmed that long ago.

 

[DeSanto]

Even if they are "planned" (which I doubt), The convoy showed us that there is power in then people. Had the convoy been about double(or more)people? There is no way the cops could have intervened, forcing Trudeau to step down.

Having a civilian military/national guard is key. Remember many police officers and soldiers, did not want to harm their own people at the convoy.

Now Veterans from all over the country are upset at how Veterans were treated at the convoy.

I think he may have been speaking about “planned” American convoys. If you look at some of the people trying to organize, it’s obvious. Some of the same organizers that hijacked J6 are making moves. Ali Akbar, for one. Are you familiar with him?

But overall, I do question the idea of blocking borders and trade routes that would cause supply chain disruptions and food shortages. How is that a good thing for the People your standing up for?

And what if there was an infiltration?

Is it too hard to conceive a scenario where black hats plant a bomb on a truck or something? Can you imagine the implications? The consequences would
be devastating.