Provisionist

[fltom]

In time they would be. In eternity they would not be. God exists outside of time. In the mind of God you have always been in Christ, always been elect. If God is omniscient is there a point in time when God did not know you were in Christ. Of course not. Get it together

You are very confused

fact some were in Christ before others

hello that is a fact

that is only possible in time

so men are in Christ in time

It happens when they believe

Ephesians 1:13 (ESV)
13 In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit,


In him you also were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit,

when?

when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him,

Its is incredibly plain

 

[Reformedguy]

sure they do right here

Provisionist

There was no forced interpretation but his Nonsense. You've tried to make believing what saved us. We are saved by grace, not faith, same book, keep turning the pages. We were sealed, not saved when believers in our given text. The fact is only someone who believes can be a believer, it is...

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Ephesians 1:13 (ESV)
13 In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit,

when were they sealed in him with the promised holy Spirit

BTW the promise of the Holy spirit was not fulfilled until the New covenent

Galatians 3:14 (ESV)
14 so that in Christ Jesus the blessing of Abraham might come to the Gentiles, so that we might receive the promised Spirit through faith.

and through faith

I'm not reading your dumb cut and pastes. You can quit wasting time.

In Him precedes all else. It would since your are chosen in Him from the foundation of the world.

 

[Reformedguy]

You are very confused

fact some were in Christ before others

hello that is a fact

that is only possible in time

so men are in Christ in time

It happens when they believe

Ephesians 1:13 (ESV)
13 In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit,


In him you also were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit,

when?

when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him,

Its is incredibly plain

Yup, temporally they are. Eternally in the mind of God they are not.

In Him precedes all the rest.

 

[fltom]

Yup, temporally they are. Eternally in the mind of God they are not.

In Him precedes all the rest.

You were not born in eternity but in time

Gods knew you would be born but you were not born yet

You were not in a relationship with Christ before you existed

though God knew you would be it did not happen then


It happens when they believe

Ephesians 1:13 (ESV)
13 In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit,


In him you also were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit,

when?

when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him,

Its is incredibly plain

 

[fltom]

Yup, temporally they are. Eternally in the mind of God they are not.

In Him precedes all the rest.

God knew it would happen but it had not happened in eternity

you are simply speaking of foreknowledge


Ephesians 1:13 (ESV)
13 In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit,


In him you also were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit,

when?

when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him,

that is in time

 

[preacher4truth]

You were not born in eternity but in time

Gods knew you would be born but you were not born yet

Gods? You're polytheistic.

You were not in a relationship with Christ before you existed

Straw man.

though God knew you would be it did not happen then

Rejection of Scripture you don't like.

It happens when they believe

Realized.

Ephesians 1:13 (ESV)
13 In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit,


In him you also were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit,

when?

when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him,

Yep

Its is incredibly plain

Obviously not as you either don't get it and/or outright reject it.

 

[Reformedguy]

You were not born in eternity but in time

Gods knew you would be born but you were not born yet

You were not in a relationship with Christ before you existed

though God knew you would be it did not happen then


It happens when they believe

Ephesians 1:13 (ESV)
13 In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit,


In him you also were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit,

when?

when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him,

Its is incredibly plain

Nobody said you were born in eternity. Lol
God knew I would be born? No, really? Thanks captain obvious.

No one said we are in a relationship before I existed. Another strawman.

In Him at the beginning of the verse precedes the rest.

I do hope you intend to do better or were about done here.

 

[fltom]

Gods? Your polytheistic.

Straw man.

Rejection of Scripture you don't like.

Realized.

Yep

Obviously not as you either don't get it and/or outright reject it.

You just refuted your confused peer

I stated

fltom said:
Ephesians 1:13 (ESV)
13 In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit,


In him you also were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit,

when?

when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him,

and you had replied

Yep

@Reformedguy

You error was confirmed

 

[fltom]

Nobody said you were born in eternity. Lol
God knew I would be born? No, really? Thanks captain obvious.

No one said we are in a relationship before I existed. Another strawman.

In Him at the beginning of the verse precedes the rest.

I do hope you intend to do better or were about done here.

LOL

Your peer @preacher4truth refuted you

Provisionist

In time they would be. In eternity they would not be. God exists outside of time. In the mind of God you have always been in Christ, always been elect. If God is omniscient is there a point in time when God did not know you were in Christ. Of course not. Get it together You are very confused...

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[Reformedguy]

You just refuted your confused peer

I stated



and you had replied



@Reformedguy

You error was confirmed

So your saying he agrees with you? Shall we ask him? Lol

 

[preacher4truth]

LOL

Your peer @preacher4truth refuted you

Provisionist

In time they would be. In eternity they would not be. God exists outside of time. In the mind of God you have always been in Christ, always been elect. If God is omniscient is there a point in time when God did not know you were in Christ. Of course not. Get it together You are very confused...

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More misrepresentations? Of course, classic Thom.

 

[Kampioen]

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That was being in Christ in time, which is also still from eternity. You can't deduce, can you

So wasn't the day before we were saved before the foundation too? And the reason He chose us ie libertarian faith before the foundation too?

So you make silence a proof of unconditional predetermination, so you have no proof.

 

[Reformedguy]

LOL

Your peer @preacher4truth refuted you

Provisionist

In time they would be. In eternity they would not be. God exists outside of time. In the mind of God you have always been in Christ, always been elect. If God is omniscient is there a point in time when God did not know you were in Christ. Of course not. Get it together You are very confused...

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No I don't think he does and you do not understand what he wrote. I for one am shocked lol

 

[fltom]

More misrepresentations? Of course, classic Thom.

Its right there

It only has to be read

I guess you forgot he denied that and let thev truth slip out

Provisionist

In time they would be. In eternity they would not be. God exists outside of time. In the mind of God you have always been in Christ, always been elect. If God is omniscient is there a point in time when God did not know you were in Christ. Of course not. Get it together You are very confused...

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[fltom]

No I don't think he does and you do not understand what he wrote. I for one am shocked lol

Sorry but he did

Provisionist

In time they would be. In eternity they would not be. God exists outside of time. In the mind of God you have always been in Christ, always been elect. If God is omniscient is there a point in time when God did not know you were in Christ. Of course not. Get it together You are very confused...

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Now you are stuck with it

 

[fltom]

So your saying he agrees with you? Shall we ask him? Lol

Its already been stated

read

Its too later to change it now

it must have slipped his mind that you had denied scripture

 

[preacher4truth]

Sorry but he did

Provisionist

In time they would be. In eternity they would not be. God exists outside of time. In the mind of God you have always been in Christ, always been elect. If God is omniscient is there a point in time when God did not know you were in Christ. Of course not. Get it together You are very confused...

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Now you are stuck with it

Still misrepresenting.

 

[Reformedguy]

Sorry but he did

Provisionist

In time they would be. In eternity they would not be. God exists outside of time. In the mind of God you have always been in Christ, always been elect. If God is omniscient is there a point in time when God did not know you were in Christ. Of course not. Get it together You are very confused...

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Now you are stuck with it

Ask him. You won't because you know he don't. Your not that stupid... . Okay, maybe

 

[preacher4truth]

No I don't think he does and you do not understand what he wrote. I for one am shocked lol

What exactly is it this merit gospel heretic is trying to claim?

 

[Reformedguy]

Sorry but he did

Provisionist

In time they would be. In eternity they would not be. God exists outside of time. In the mind of God you have always been in Christ, always been elect. If God is omniscient is there a point in time when God did not know you were in Christ. Of course not. Get it together You are very confused...

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Now you are stuck with it

I'm not stuck with anything. Ask him, don't be scared.