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SovereignGrace

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fltom

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I'm not stuck with anything. Ask him, don't be scared.
I don't need to ask it is right here




fltom said:
Ephesians 1:13 (ESV)
13 In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit,


In him you also
were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit,

when?

when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him,

and he had replied


affirming men are sealed in Christ after they believe

In any case you should thank him for helping you see how absurd your claim was
 

Reformedguy

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I don't need to ask it is right here






and he had replied



affirming men are sealed in Christ after they believe

In any case you should thank him for helping you see how absurd your claim was
Ask him. Don't be scared. I don't think he appreciates you speaking for him.
 

fltom

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Oh, so he only sees half of what I said. Same way he sees Scripture. Thanks.
Sorry but you are tripping over your words

the evidence is here and cannot be refuted


fltom said:
Ephesians 1:13 (ESV)
13 In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit,


In him you also
were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit,

when?

when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him,

and you had replied


obviously refuting the absurd idea one is in Christ before believing
 

fltom

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Ask him. Don't be scared. I don't think he appreciates you speaking for him.
It's in print

Its toon late for him or you to deny it

Men are not in Christ before they believe

it was a crazy idea to start with

look at the bright side

At least you are free from defending that absurd claim
 

Reformedguy

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It's in print

Its toon late for him or you to deny it

Men are not in Christ before they believe

it was a crazy idea to start with
Sure they are. From the foundation of the world actually just like it says. In the mind of God eternally, realized temporally in time. Pretty simple really. Except for you
 

Reformedguy

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It's in print

Its toon late for him or you to deny it

Men are not in Christ before they believe

it was a crazy idea to start with

look at the bright side

At least you are free from defending that absurd claim
Sure they are. See Ephesians 1:4.

When do we get our text that says belief, faithfulness is the basis for being chosen in Christ? Will it be sooner rather than later? Or not at all which I suspect.
 

fltom

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Better reread what he wrote.
LOL

He wrote yep

It's kind of hard to misunderstand

Yep the opposite of no, nah, not so

as when you are in agreement

agrement with what ?


In him you also were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit,

when?

when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him,

In other words you are not in him before you believe
 

Reformedguy

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LOL

He wrote yep

It's kind of hard to misunderstand

Yep the opposite of no, nah, not so

as when you are in agreement

agrement with what ?




In other words you are not in him before you believe
Yep to what?

Sure ya are. See Ephesians 1:4
 

preacher4truth

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It's in print

Its toon late for him or you to deny it

Men are not in Christ before they believe

it was a crazy idea to start with

look at the bright side

At least you are free from defending that absurd claim
Why are you misrepresenting me by only concentrating on part of what I stated? That's dishonest of you.
 

Reformedguy

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Yep to this

In him you also were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit,

when?

when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him,
Sorry, chosen in Him from the foundation of the world.

Where does it say belief is the basis for being chosen in Christ?
 

Kampioen

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Sorry, chosen in Him from the foundation of the world.

Where does it say belief is the basis for being chosen in Christ?
Where does it say God's choosing is unconditional? Wouldn't the condition be in Him from the foundation of the world too?
 
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