I have and am awaiting your rebuttal
You and others like the Mormons are deceived by a deceiving spirit.
Eph 6:12 For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places.
Wake up that says nothing at all that men are incapable of understanding the written or preached word
I have told you that 3 times already
Hello
1Jn_4:1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.
1Jn_4:2 By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God,
1Jn_4:3 and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you heard was coming and now is in the world already.
Is it your contention for example that Mormons are not being deceived by a deceiving spirit?
Again nothing there about men being incapable of understanding the written or preached word
And how do you test the spirits but by the written word
You keep posting verses which do nothing at all to support your view
1Co 12:10 to another the working of miracles, to another prophecy, to another the ability to distinguish between spirits, to another various kinds of tongues, to another the interpretation of tongues.
You cannot understand why discernment of spirits is a spiritual gift, as your faith is devoid of the Spirit of God.
More silliness
Does everyone have that gift?
No they don't
so how did the Bereans test Paul's message
Acts 17:11 (KJV)
11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.
and what does the scripture say of them
The issue is whether or not faith lies in the Power of God by personal Spiritual revelation, or if faith lies in the power of your mind and intellect.
Still confusion
Faith rests on the word of God
Romans 10:8-17 (KJV)
8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee,
even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?
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So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
I say faith that saves is a work of God and prove it with scripture. You post scriptures that say nothing about a faith that is the work of man, devoid of Spiritual revelation.
1Co 2:4 and my speech and my message were not in plausible words of wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power,
1Co 2:5 so that your faith might not rest in the wisdom of men but in the power of God.
When asking Tom if his faith lies in the power of God or in the wisdom of men, he runs away from answering and claims this is not at issue.
This is a falsehood
I have told you a hundred times my faith rests in God's word
Why do you bear false witness?
further the spirit here was working with Paul to bringing the message not on the hearers of the message
I have pointed this out to you previously
False witness and a failure to interpret passages correctly and correct your errors are not helping your argument