Qanone

Electric Skeptic

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If it makes you feel better...keep telling yourself that.
It neither makes me feel better nor makes me feel worse. It's fact, and no Trumpite has been able to come up with ANY independent agency who has found any fraud. On the other hand, every independent agency who has investigated has found it to be free of fraud.
 

Yahweh will increase

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According to you.... it would have been open defiance for a christian to defy Hitler.
Check it out in the book of Acts, did any Christians ever defy Caesar?

The truth be told, the very reason why God allowed Hitler to come into power, was because the churches ceased to reflect the true righteousness of God in their lives to bring the conviction necessary to hold him back from coming into power and so God allowed him to have the rule.

Remember, evil Rome and her Emperor's came into power before Jesus was ever born and began his church and the reason why Rome gained the power they did stems back from where it began with Nebuchadnezzar and Babylon and the reason Babylon came into power was because of Israel's apostasy.

So if we end up with socialism in our nation, it will not be because of what the unbelievers are doing but it will be because the church has also failed to be the salt and righteousness of God that keeps our country from rotting.

There is a saying "those who can't do teach" and this is nearly the problem with the church except I will called it "those who can't do make a big noise and try to legislate morality on the lost" and which will never change their hearts to cause it to last anyhow.

Furthermore, it will have nothing to do with who they are voting for or a failure to legislate morality on unbelievers either but the fact that they fail to reveal the true righteousness of God within their lives in order to bring the necessary conviction in America to hold back the evil forces of darkness from overrunning our nation.


True believers know that they are not wrestling against flesh and blood (human conspiracies) but rather against principalities and powers and against the rulers of the darkness of this world and against spiritual wickedness in high places.

Therefore it isn't about a world wide conspiracy but rather a world wide deception that human's are blind to and have no clue that they are involved with and a good example of this are those conspiracy theories which you and the churches have ignorantly accepted as a reality when really they are not.

I am not saying that there have never been small conspiracies on and off within history but not one in the magnitude of what Qanon believes and what the churches are being deceived with.
 
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CrowCross

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Check it out in the book of Acts, did any Christians ever defy Caesar?

The truth be told, the very reason why God allowed Hitler to come into power, was because the churches ceased to reflect the true righteousness of God in their lives to bring the conviction necessary to hold him back from coming into power and so God allowed him to have the rule.

Remember, evil Rome and her Emperor's came into power before Jesus was ever born and began his church and the reason why Rome gained the power they did stems back from where it began with Nebuchadnezzar and Babylon and the reason Babylon came into power was because of Israel's apostasy.

So if we end up with socialism in our nation, it will not be because of what the unbelievers are doing but it will be because the church has also failed to be the salt and righteousness of God that keeps our country from rotting.

There is a saying "those who can't do teach" and this is nearly the problem with the church except I will called it "those who can't do make a big noise and try to legislate morality on the lost" and which will never change their hearts to cause it to last anyhow.

Furthermore, it will have nothing to do with who they are voting for or a failure to legislate morality on unbelievers either but the fact that they fail to reveal the true righteousness of God within their lives in order to bring the necessary conviction in America to hold back the evil forces of darkness from overrunning our nation.


True believers know that they are not wrestling against flesh and blood (human conspiracies) but rather against principalities and powers and against the rulers of the darkness of this world and against spiritual wickedness in high places.

Therefore it isn't about a world wide conspiracy but rather a world wide deception that human's are blind to and have no clue that they are involved with and a good example of this are those conspiracy theories which you and the churches have ignorantly accepted as a reality when really they are not.

I am not saying that there have never been small conspiracies on and off within history but not one in the magnitude of what Qanon believes and what the churches are being deceived with.
Yes, there are many false churches out there. Many have turned their back on the fully God fully man Jesus and the Trinity. Many have turned to a social justice gospel or prosperity gospel.

What's in Gods mind? Who knows. The bible speaks of a One World Goverment and religious system in the book of Rev. It's coming. When??? Who knows. Many think very soon. The rapture is next.

As to christians in the book of acts defying Ceazsar...that's really not what the book was about. What I do know is that in the book of Acts 2 people sold their land and lied to and defied God the Holy Spirit then dropped dead.
 

CrowCross

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It neither makes me feel better nor makes me feel worse. It's fact, and no Trumpite has been able to come up with ANY independent agency who has found any fraud. On the other hand, every independent agency who has investigated has found it to be free of fraud.
I'm here to help you.

Let me say it again....If it makes you feel better...keep telling yourself that.

It seems as you need to keep saying your mantra. You can reply and say there was no evidence and feel good for a few moments. When you hit "post reply" you can release some endorphins and get a momentary feeling of relief.
 

Yahweh will increase

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Yes, there are many false churches out there. Many have turned their back on the fully God fully man Jesus and the Trinity. Many have turned to a social justice gospel or prosperity gospel.
ROFLOL, no but instead that is the root of all of your false doctrine and that is also why you don't have the genuine article of the law written in your hearts by the Holy Spirit whereby the unbelievers around you can be convicted of their sins and therefore it is why you try to vote to have God's moral laws legislated to them instead.

Those that you mentioned are also trinitarians, and that is what your apostate church produces, many Harlot daughters that speaks many different tongues of false doctrines and which is spreading Abominations through the earth because of the confusion it is creating with the truth of God's word and which is why Jesus called it "Mystery Babylon" or interpreted "Mystery Confusion"


What's in Gods mind? Who knows. The bible speaks of a One World Goverment and religious system in the book of Rev. It's coming. When??? Who knows. Many think very soon. The rapture is next.

Yet Paul told us in 1 Corinthians 2:13-16 that those who are truly led by the discernment of the Holy Spirit have the mind of God because of it and therefore the discernment to see right past all of your religiosity and into the root of your false doctrines.

By the way, if you read Daniel 2 by the discernment of the Holy Spirit, it will not be a one world government in the way you believe, but it will be a broken unity of many governments like clay would be mixed with the iron and all of them will give their power unto the beast to use against the true church and also the false harlot church at the end of the age, See Revelation 17-18.

That is also why the Bible uses the symbolic language of the ten horns or ten Kings which is a figurative rounded number that represents all of the kings of the earth.

They will all be controlled the beast from the bottomless pit and which is the spirit of antichrist and which is identified also in Revelation 9 as their true spirit king and leader.

The star that falls to the earth in Revelation 9 is symbolism for the apostate church as a whole who fall from their heavenly calling into apostasy and release the antichrist and his demonic forces from the bottomless pit because of their apostasy and just like Paul reveals in 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12 also.

If you question this, just remember that the twelve stars in the hands of Jesus in Revelation 2-3 are symbolic of the 7 churches.
As to christians in the book of acts defying Ceazsar...that's really not what the book was about. What I do know is that in the book of Acts 2 people sold their land and lied to and defied God the Holy Spirit then dropped dead.

Oh yes it is, for it is a record of the actions of the Holy Spirit within the early church, for what they were truly led to do and teach by the Spirit and what they weren't.

Furthermore, it was written to reveal this for us so that we don't step out into actions that are not from the Holy Spirit like being involved in civil disobedience over the lives of the wicked and unbelieving and what they choose to do with them unborn babies and which was never the business of the church and still isn't.

Read your Bible dude, for in the OT God told Israel to go into those nations and kill men, women and children and that would include women who were pregnant also.

I am by no means saying that we should do this today because there was no remedy for their sins back them like there is in Jesus today, but I am only bringing it up to reveal that you are making it your business to save the baby's of the wicked from dying in the womb when if they are born most of them will die in the second death anyhow.

By the way, a baby who has not breathed in the breath of life on his own, but lives off of his mothers breath of life through the ambilocal cord, has not yet become a living soul apart from his mother and therefore will cease to exist if aborted.

However, if he is born and doesn't repent and believe in his life time, he will suffer in this life and then also in the second death.

So how is saving him being pro life, and what life do you think you are you saving him or her to live anyhow?

For Jesus said only a minority will repent and believe while the majority will stay on the road that leads to destruction and that includes any babies that you save from dying in the womb also.

One last thing on this, your apostate churches in their ignorance like to argue that if they are aborted, it could also mean that some of God's elect will be aborted and that is a bunch of rubbish, for the elect are predestined to be born and to come to God through Christ and there is nothing that will or can stop them from being born either.

This would mean, that God himself would keep them from being killed and just like he did with Moses and Jesus also and out of probably thousands of others that were killed.
 
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Electric Skeptic

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I'm here to help you.
No, you're not. You're here to push Trumpism.
Let me say it again....If it makes you feel better...keep telling yourself that.
It neither makes me feel better nor makes me feel worse. It's fact, and no Trumpite has been able to come up with ANY independent agency who has found any fraud. On the other hand, every independent agency who has investigated has found it to be free of fraud. Which, of course, you won't even address.
It seems as you need to keep saying your mantra. You can reply and say there was no evidence and feel good for a few moments. When you hit "post reply" you can release some endorphins and get a momentary feeling of relief.
I'm not interested in childish ad hominem.
 

CrowCross

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ROFLOL, no but instead that is the root of all of your false doctrine and that is also why you don't have the genuine article of the law written in your hearts by the Holy Spirit whereby the unbelievers around you can be convicted of their sins and therefore it is why you try to vote to have God's moral laws legislated to them instead.

Those that you mentioned are also trinitarians, and that is what your apostate church produces, many Harlot daughters that speaks many different tongues of false doctrines and which is spreading Abominations through the earth because of the confusion it is creating with the truth of God's word and which is why Jesus called it "Mystery Babylon" or interpreted "Mystery Confusion"




Yet Paul told us in 1 Corinthians 2:13-16 that those who are truly led by the discernment of the Holy Spirit have the mind of God because of it and therefore the discernment to see right past all of your religiosity and into the root of your false doctrines.

By the way, if you read Daniel 2 by the discernment of the Holy Spirit, it will not be a one world government in the way you believe, but it will be a broken unity of many governments like clay would be mixed with the iron and all of them will give their power unto the beast to use against the true church and also the false harlot church at the end of the age, See Revelation 17-18.

That is also why the Bible uses the symbolic language of the ten horns or ten Kings which is a figurative rounded number that represents all of the kings of the earth.

They will all be controlled the beast from the bottomless pit and which is the spirit of antichrist and which is identified also in Revelation 9 as their true spirit king and leader.

The star that falls to the earth in Revelation 9 is symbolism for the apostate church as a whole who fall from their heavenly calling into apostasy and release the antichrist and his demonic forces from the bottomless pit because of their apostasy and just like Paul reveals in 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12 also.

If you question this, just remember that the twelve stars in the hands of Jesus in Revelation 2-3 are symbolic of the 7 churches.


Oh yes it is, for it is a record of the actions of the Holy Spirit within the early church, for what they were truly led to do and teach by the Spirit and what they weren't.

Furthermore, it was written to reveal this for us so that we don't step out into actions that are not from the Holy Spirit like being involved in civil disobedience over the lives of the wicked and unbelieving and what they choose to do with them unborn babies and which was never the business of the church and still isn't.

Read your Bible dude, for in the OT God told Israel to go into those nations and kill men, women and children and that would include women who were pregnant also.

I am by no means saying that we should do this today because there was no remedy for their sins back them like there is in Jesus today, but I am only bringing it up to reveal that you are making it your business to save the baby's of the wicked from dying in the womb when if they are born most of them will die in the second death anyhow.

By the way, a baby who has not breathed in the breath of life on his own, but lives off of his mothers breath of life through the ambilocal cord, has not yet become a living soul apart from his mother and therefore will cease to exist if aborted.

However, if he is born and doesn't repent and believe in his life time, he will suffer in this life and then also in the second death.

So how is saving him being pro life, and what life do you think you are you saving him or her to live anyhow?

For Jesus said only a minority will repent and believe while the majority will stay on the road that leads to destruction and that includes any babies that you save from dying in the womb also.

One last thing on this, your apostate churches in their ignorance like to argue that if they are aborted, it could also mean that some of God's elect will be aborted and that is a bunch of rubbish, for the elect are predestined to be born and to come to God through Christ and there is nothing that will or can stop them from being born either.

This would mean, that God himself would keep them from being killed and just like he did with Moses and Jesus also and out of probably thousands of others that were killed.
Yes, everyone is wrong and you have the only true gospel.

There will be one chair in heaven for the saints...yours
 

Yahweh will increase

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What's in Gods mind? Who knows. The bible speaks of a One World Goverment and religious system in the book of Rev. It's coming. When??? Who knows. Many think very soon. The rapture is next.
I almost missed this above in orange, for there is no such thing as a pre trib rapture to bail you out of the coming tribulation of persecution from those symbolic ten kings and the Bible is clear on this also.

For Paul not only tells us when the rapture will occur in regards to "pre, mid or post" trib but also why there will even be a rapture also and it is found in his chapter on the resurrection and rapture of 1 Corinthians 15:22-26 and then picking back up in verses 51-58.

Your churches always fail to show the full context of this passage and that is why many in your churches are totally deceived also, but in verses 22-26 Paul very clearly reveals that the rapture will occur only after all enemies of God like sin and and all those connected to sins are destroyed and only then shall death be destroyed also for his church.

Paul very clearly calls this the end period and when he will deliver the kingdom up unto God even the Father after he has put down all rule, authority and power that is in opposition to God through their sin first.

If you look at verse 51-53, Paul doesn't speak here of the rapture but rather of the transformation that will first occur in the church when Jesus destroys the sin that still exists within the believer and which is what causes his physical death.

Therefore, because sin is what causes their physical death, once sin is removed from the believer first and they are changed in a moment and in the twinkling of an eye, then death will also be destroyed and so that no more of his saints will ever have to die again and this is when the resurrection and rapture will occur.

There are many other proofs in the scriptures on this also but this one is the most powerful of all of them.


Read the parables of Jesus about his coming and the end of the age, and you will also notice that the wicked are dealt with first and only after they are bundled in physical death to be burned in the second death are the righteous gathered from the earth to enter into the heavenly Kingdom.

Your churches are deceiving you dude and like I have attempt to show you many times over and while you have continually refused to listen.
 
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