romishpopishorganist
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Why? Because some random, anonymous, Protestant fundamentalist on some website says so?Neither is your pope. What he teaches and believes puts him squarely outside of apostolic teaching. Like all previous popes.
Can I invalidate the election of Joe Biden with exactly the same ease?
Thanks for clearing that up for me. Pope Francis does not have such authority--so says--some random Protestant fundamentalist on some website.He does claim it, and he doesn't have the authority.
Right. He did. You mean the pope should not consult anyone before he makes a decision?Coulda fooled me. He asked if they thought it would be a good thing to make this dogma.
Once again----you show we can't win. If the pope simply defined the dogma without consulting the Church at large, then you would have complained that the pope does whatever he wants whenever he wants--without regard for the Faithful.
Sure it does.Doesn't sound like its revealed by God at all does it?
The difference there is that Moses directly spoke to God and received the Revelation. It was clear that this was divinely revealed; no one questioned it.Can you imagine Moses coming down the mountain taking a poll whether the 10 commandments were something they thought was okay?
People questioned whether the Assumption was divinely revealed. The pope cleared up the uncertainty.
Yes, he did. Again, it is one thing when things are clear and questions are not being asked. Something altogether different when it isn't clear, and questions are being asked.Or did God say here take this and tell the people this is their new standard. No voting allowed. And btw, Pius 9th did the same thing when he sent out Ubi Primum before declaring marys IC.
Well--if I was a Protestant--I better accept Sola Scriptura and Sola Fide or suffer God's wrath, right?Thats precisely why Catholics believe this stuff today. Believe or else right? Gods wrath, Peter and Paul laying into you...Tell us another one.
That isn't the point.Depends on what that something is right? Reject the gospel, you're lost. Reject Paul went on one of his missionary journeys? Is believing that salvific?
The POINT is that once someone KNOWS that something is Biblical, that something is of God, they have a duty to believe it. We are not free to actively reject God's Truth if we know it to be true.
But I am not being forced to believe the Assumption or the IC. I willingly believe it and rejoice in those teachings.When you're forced to believe it when it has nothing to do with salvation, ya your church is heaping something on you that is 100% unnecessary.
Pope Francis has not put a gun to my head sir--and forcing me to be Catholic.