In the ultimate absolute sense? There is one redeemer; Christ.
But you like every other Protestant on this site--insists on creating false dichotomies, zero-sums and competitions where there simply are not any.
When we assert that Mary is the "co-redemptrix" Mary is not in competition with Christ. As I explained: Mary is the second Eve. Just as the first Eve paved the way for Adam's sin, so also Mary's "yes" to the angel paved the way for the Second Adam.
Your opinion.
Is there a Second Adam? yes or no?
I do not need to re-read anything, sir.
If Jesus is the Second Adam (man) then Mary is the second Eve. How did the Second Adam come to earth, sir?
Isn't prayer for each other a form of mediation, sir?
Sigh. Already explained. Go back and re-read my post.
In reference to Christ and the Father, yes.
So?
Do you pray for people? That isn't mediation in your world?
In the ultimate absolute sense? There is one redeemer; Christ.
Thanks, we can call this one too. If there is one redeemer and its not mary we really don't need to pursue this any further do we?
But you like every other Protestant on this site--insists on creating false dichotomies,
Where? Our objections aren't made in a vacuum. They come from catholics that make claims they can't back up. We question what YOU people are saying. Hows that a false dichotomy? Its a real objection to a real claim made by catholics.
When we assert that Mary is the "co-redemptrix" Mary is not in competition with Christ.
Oh thats good to know. You've all but pushed Jesus off of His throne with all this mary nonsense. But hey as long as theres no competition right? I could make a list and it would be rather long of all the 'non-competitive' titles, powers, offices she has been given by catholics.
Just as the first Eve paved the way for Adam's sin, so also Mary's "yes" to the angel paved the way for the Second Adam.
The funny thing is, we don't see those comparisons in the bible do we? Its always Adam and Jesus, not Eve and Mary. And again, Marys 'yes' wasn't because God was somehow backed into a corner and was biting His nails hoping Mary would say yes. She is a bond-slave, as an obedient, humble slave she said yes to what she was told would happen to her. She wasn't asked anything.
Fine, just plop down all the verses with all her titles and powers and offices. We'll wait.
Is there a Second Adam? yes or no?
There is a last Adam;
1Cor 15:45 Thus it is written, “The first man Adam became a living being”; the last Adam became a life-giving spirit.
Notice Paul doesn't say 'first adam', 'second adam'? Its first Adam, last Adam.
There is a second man;
1Cor 15:47 The first man was from the earth, a man of dust; the second man is from heaven.
If you have a verse that says Jesus is the 'second Adam' i'd like to see it. If you wanted to be consistent maybe call Mary the last eve? Or second woman? But those don't really have the punch of second Eve does it? And thats really what the whole business behind Jesus being 'second adam' is about right? So you can call Mary the second eve. No one calls Jesus the second Adam strictly speaking. And no one calls Mary the second Eve, last eve, other eve, eve part 2, the good eve....yada yada. Its simply another way in a long line of ways to make Mary out to be something she clearly isn't.
I do not need to re-read anything, sir.
Not from where i'm sitting. There is no eve/mary dichotomy in the bible. Its Adam/Jesus. Romans 5 details that. Maybe a refresher course is due?
If Jesus is the Second Adam (man) then Mary is the second Eve. How did the Second Adam come to earth, sir?
Like clockwork.
Isn't prayer for each other a form of mediation, sir?
No its not. I thought you taught theology? Prayer has five synonyms, mediator isn't one of them. These words are not interchangeable. If you think they are simply provide the verse where the greek word for mediator is used for anyone other than Jesus in the n.t. That should be a 5 minute study. Prove me wrong i'll gladly concede. When you find you are wrong, will you?
Sigh. Already explained. Go back and re-read my post.
Right, in one sentence you admit there is one mediator. In another there are a billion mediators. That doesn't sound confusing at all.