Rapture yes or no

American Gothic

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Rapture yes or no?

the Church is not appointed to God's wrath
nor would God beat up on the bride to be of the Son
we have a wonderful inheritance in and with Him foreva

Christiandom, most of which is not truly Christian will probably be judged in the Tribulation
 

YeshuaFan

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Rapture yes or no?

the Church is not appointed to God's wrath
nor would God beat up on the bride to be of the Son
we have a wonderful inheritance in and with Him foreva

Christiandom, most of which is not truly Christian will probably be judged in the Tribulation
Could be as israel was in the OT, protected by God during the plagues
 

YeshuaFan

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"Your throne, O God, is forever and ever;
A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom.
You love righteousness and hate wickedness;
Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You
With the oil of gladness more than Your companions." Psalm 45

an aspect of God, Who is God
has a God

there is only one God, and God is One
If one cannot accept the Trinity as laid out in the scriptures, much of the Bible will be not understandable!
 

Gary Mac

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We can never be obedient enough to merit anything from God
What you mean is you cant -- but we who are of God, anointed of God, Christ in us, cant merit anything from God, it is a gift that we received from Goid to have His same mind and walk in it as He walks in it.
the history of Adam, Mankind and the nation of Israel specifically
recorded in Scripture for all to read illustrate that
And all religious denominations has a different interpretation of it dont they? It is easy to see that in this very forum.
 

Gary Mac

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If one cannot accept the Trinity as laid out in the scriptures, much of the Bible will be not understandable!
If one is of trinity god then you cant understand what it is to have the One true God reside in you that you be like Him, perfect as He is perfect, walk as He walks in His same light, same signs follow you, and when you do see Him as He is, the One true God, then ye shall be like Him just as Jesus and these others received from Him that the Bible is clear happens in us all who does receive the One true God to have His same mind and walk in it.

And in that trinity doctrine you cant understand how any of this can be true you read of in the Bible, for you have edited the way of God to be like Him and instead has made an idol that you cant communicate with one on one at all. But if you did receive the one true God that Jesus received in Matt 3:16 where God opens up all of this to him, He will do the same in you; only if will drop those religious gods and receive the One Jesus received, Adam received, Moses, Abraham, received, Jesus received in Matt 3:16, 120 received the same one in an upper room.

The trinity man made doctrine has you stymied. There is no way God can come to you and be in you as long as you worship others gods such as a man as a god.
 
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American Gothic

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Jesus as a Man has The father as his God, and yet he also is God!
Did God only become His God when He took on a Human body?

the Person who the Messiah is has always existed
as has the Person who is His God, no?
I'm sure some will say no
 
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American Gothic

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all religious denominations has a different interpretation of it dont they? It is easy to see that in this very forum.
God's word says what is says and teaches what it teaches regardless
that doesn't change with Interpretation

arguing about it is part of what CARM is for, no?
 
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YeshuaFan

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Did God only become His God when He took on a Human body?

the Person who the Messiah is has always existed
as has the Person who is His God, no?
I'm sure some will say no
Jesus was always eternally God, but when he became incarnated as a Man, in His Humanity called the father His God
 
God's word says what is says and teaches what it teaches regardless
that doesn't change with Interpretation

arguing about it is part of what CARM is for, no?

yes, talking about these things is what it is for. but God is Light and there is no darkness in Him (He knows the Truth). but with us resides the unknowns, "for now we see through a glass darkly", "we know in part and prophesy in part" I Co. 13: 9,12.

some people will understand at a very very low level, and yet think they know for sure and without darkness. but unless that person, any person really begins to want to know Truth - over any Indoctrinations and/or Errors of Man/Woman in Thinking on things abut the Bible and God, then that person will remain in darkness to whatever very great degrees or lesser degrees that they are given - by the Laws of God to remain in that darkness.

we cannot know what we are not willing to live... so those who do not seek after spiritual things - but instead seek the Letter - in the which they use to Prove - against their Brothers and Sisters on Earth - that they are right - and their Siblings wrong - do damage to their own spirits - Teaching Themselves - out of Themselves - the letter of the Word - instead of out The Spirit - that can only found by seeking after Spiritual Things - and/or gifted to us by The Spirit - whom He/It chooses to.

but one whose Mind is not prepared to receive Real Truth - Over possible Error or any Error - will not - Receive. or in other words, they are Unable to - because (as many here and elsewhere) they have made themselves into Teachers - instead of Learners (and/or Learners/Teachers), and if what they Teach be too much of the Darkness and without a Mind able to Learn new (to Them) and greater Degrees of Truth - then there can be no progession to their learning - from Darkness/Partial Unknowns - to Light/True, Better Knowledge & Understanding.

and so they will use a place like this, yes - to Argue - for Themselves - and for Their Doctrines. unwilling (or so it can seem) to consider Other Points of View - that may very well - Be More From the Spirit - whereas Their Own Ideas/Doctrines/Teachings can be Very Much of The Darkness - of Unknowns - from Themselves - And from Others Like Them. Not from God or The Spirit - the Spirit which Reveals All Things to - a Spiritual Mind.
 
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Bob Carabbio

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Many professing Christians believe and teach that we will be spared the tribulation before Jesus comes back. They call it a rapture edit
Eschatology is just another word for rank speculation. Your "OPINION is "just another" version. All God's CHilluns Gots "opinions".
 
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