Red Cross won't take blood tainted by mRNA gene therapies

shnarkle

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“If you receive any type of COVID vaccine, you are not eligible to donate convalescent plasma.”

“One of the Red Cross requirements for plasma from routine blood and platelet donations that test positive for high-levels of antibodies to be used as convalescent plasma is that it must be from a donor that has not received a COVID-19 vaccine. This is to ensure that antibodies collected from donors have sufficient antibodies directly related to their immune response to a COVID-19 infection and not just the vaccine, as antibodies from an infection and antibodies from a vaccine are not the same.”



 

Authentic Nouveau

Well-known member
Natural immunity Trumps artificial "immunity"?

In the backward tribal cultures of Aussiestan and New Zealstan, they are delaying natural immunity.
 

Bonnie

Super Member
“If you receive any type of COVID vaccine, you are not eligible to donate convalescent plasma.”

“One of the Red Cross requirements for plasma from routine blood and platelet donations that test positive for high-levels of antibodies to be used as convalescent plasma is that it must be from a donor that has not received a COVID-19 vaccine. This is to ensure that antibodies collected from donors have sufficient antibodies directly related to their immune response to a COVID-19 infection and not just the vaccine, as antibodies from an infection and antibodies from a vaccine are not the same.”



CONVALESCENT plasma--do you know what that means?

However, the Red Cross does say this about those who want to donate blood for the red blood cells and platelets, who have been vaccinated against covid:

Step 1: Have the vaccine manufacturer name handy. If you’ve received a COVID-19 vaccine, you’ll need to provide the manufacturer name when you come to donate. Upon vaccination, you should receive a card or printout indicating what COVID-19 vaccine was received, and we encourage you to bring that card with you to your next donation. In most cases, there is no deferral time for individuals who received a COVID-19 vaccine as long as you are symptom-free and feeling well at the time of your donation. Step 2: Review the required deferral periods. No need to wait to give blood if you received a non-replicating, inactivated, or RNA based COVID-19 vaccine manufactured by AstraZeneca, Janssen/J&J, Moderna, Novavax, or Pfizer. If you have received a live attenuated COVID-19 vaccine or do not know what type of COVID-19 vaccine you received, you must wait two weeks before giving blood.
If you receive any type of COVID-19 vaccine, you are not eligible to donate convalescent plasma with the Red Cross. However, you may be eligible to donate other blood products with the Red Cross including whole blood and platelets if you meet other donation eligibility criteria.


So, your OP subject line is sensationalistic and totally misleading. The Red Cross said NOTHING about blood being "tainted" with the mRNA vaccines. Because IF the blood of those who have been vaccinated is so "tainted"--then why can vaccinated people still give blood to give red blood cells and platelets?
 
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Bonnie

Super Member
Natural immunity Trumps artificial "immunity"?

In the backward tribal cultures of Aussiestan and New Zealstan, they are delaying natural immunity.
Gee they are REALLY backwards--due to some strict policies, they have among the lowest death rates of any country in the world--as of September 1, they have had 1,032 deaths. It was much lower until more recently. NZ has had 26--count 'em--26. It helps being an island nation, though--easier to isolate a disease and prevent its being imported.

But what BACKWARD countries these are! Horrors! Why it is downright unpatriotic to have such low death rates from the virus!

:rolleyes:

So, right now, the Red Cross is only using convalescent plasma from those who have had the disease and recovered. I can see their point. But the OP only selectively quotes the Red Cross. Note what it says here about convalescent plasma:

The Red Cross acknowledges that the U.S. Food and Drug Administration did update its guidance regarding convalescent plasma donor eligibility related to those who receive a COVID-19 vaccine. We are evaluating the feasibility and timeline to implement this complex update, alongside the evolving hospital needs for COVID-19 patients. Please know, the Red Cross is committed to building a readily available inventory of convalescent plasma to ensure patients battling COVID-19 have all treatment options available to them.


See anything there about vaccinated people having "tainted" blood????
 
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shnarkle

Well-known member
Natural immunity Trumps artificial "immunity"?

In the backward tribal cultures of Aussiestan and New Zealstan, they are delaying natural immunity.
How long can donated blood be stored? What's the shelf life? I know of people who donate blood before an operation so they can use their own blood, but I'm curious how long one can store one's own blood.
 

Bonnie

Super Member
r blood plasma collected from patients who have recovered from an infection
Good. Now, did you read the REST of what the Red Cross wrote, which I quoted and bolded? About how vaccinated people can still donate blood for Red blood cells and platelets...?

And where did the Red Cross say it would not take plasma from people who have had the vaccine because it is "Tainted"?
 

Authentic Nouveau

Well-known member
So, your OP subject line is sensationalistic and totally misleading. The Red Cross said NOTHING about blood being "tainted" with the mRNA vaccines. Because IF the blood of those who have been vaccinated is so "tainted"--then why can vaccinated people still give blood to give red blood cells and platelets?
Left wing critics.

Sensationalistic disagreement.

"totally misleading" Judgmentalism!!
 

Bonnie

Super Member
Left wing critics
No, someone who knows how to read and think critically, and is slightly to the right of center.
Sensationalistic disagreement.

Baloney. I just made note of the fact that the Red Cross said not one word about vaccinated blood being "tainted." Which even the author of the OP admitted...did you not see that? If not, perhaps a trip to the optometrist is in order...
"totally misleading" Judgmentalism!!
No, accurately reading what the Red Cross article ACTUALLY WROTE.

But if blood from the vaccinated is so "tainted", then why does the Red Cross still accept blood from them, for platelets and red blood cells?
 
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