Reformed Preterism Is Dead

robycop3

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first thanks for reply, second, I'm, not a preterist. third do you believe the Lord Jesus? let's see.
Luke 24:35 And they told what things were done in the way, and how he was known of them in breaking of bread.
Luke 24:36 And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.
Luke 24:37 But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit.
Luke 24:38 And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts?
Luke 24:39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
is not God a Spirit? see Jomn 4:24a

Now, are you going to believe Moses or God?

:ninja:
BOTH ! As the all-powerful Spirit, GOD CAN DO ANYTHING.. If He chooses to look like a man, He CAN. If He chooses to be invisible, He CAN. If He chooses to be a land octopus, He CAN.

No one can name anything He cannot do ! We can name many things He WILL NOT do, such as lie, but there's nothing He CANNOT do !
 

Rockson

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Moses plainly wrote in various places that God has hands, a back, and a face. I believe him over any of mens' ignorant guesswork. And you're not doing squat to defend the preterist myth.
You were speaking to another but I agree God does have those things. I think some struggle with it for they read God is a Spirit so therefore he's not physical but they don't get that even angels are spirits and have a spiritual form body. Another thing they wonder how can God be everywhere then if he has a form...that would suggest places where he isn't. We have things even in the universe we know that could help us understand. A star or our Sun has a form it's 93 million miles away and yet we say we're going out into the Sun. The Sun has a form and yet it's here as well by its all encompassing radiation. It could be said in a real way of saying it you are going out into the Sun. I suppose some struggling with the idea that God has a form which Jesus actually even said he did, Jn 5:37 keep thinking it'd make him have limitations. No reason to think that.
 

robycop3

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You were speaking to another but I agree God does have those things. I think some struggle with it for they read God is a Spirit so therefore he's not physical but they don't get that even angels are spirits and have a spiritual form body. Another thing they wonder how can God be everywhere then if he has a form...that would suggest places where he isn't. We have things even in the universe we know that could help us understand. A star or our Sun has a form it's 93 million miles away and yet we say we're going out into the Sun. The Sun has a form and yet it's here as well by its all encompassing radiation. It could be said in a real way of saying it you are going out into the Sun. I suppose some struggling with the idea that God has a form which Jesus actually even said he did, Jn 5:37 keep thinking it'd make him have limitations. No reason to think that.
As I reminded 101G, God can do ANYTHING. He can take any form He chooses to take. He can be everywhere, and in only one place at the same time. We simply cannot understand His full nature and power.
 

Rockson

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first thanks for reply, second, I'm, not a preterist. third do you believe the Lord Jesus? let's see.
Luke 24:35 And they told what things were done in the way, and how he was known of them in breaking of bread.
Luke 24:36 And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.
Luke 24:37 But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit.
Luke 24:38 And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts?
Luke 24:39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
is not God a Spirit? see Jomn 4:24a

Now, are you going to believe Moses or God?

:ninja:
But are not angels spirits too? I'd say when Jesus said a spirit has not flesh and bones it's talking about a body of the terrestrial. It doesn't mean spirits don't have forms that you could see if God gave you for a moment the discerning of spirits, or seeing into the spirit realm. The story of Elisha and his servant even reveal this,

"Therefore he sent horses and chariots and a great army there, and they came by night and surrounded the city. 15And when the servant of the man of God arose early and went out, there was an army, surrounding the city with horses and chariots. And his servant said to him, “Alas, my master! What shall we do?”So he answered, “Do not fear, for those who are with us are more than those who are with them.” And Elisha prayed, and said, “Lord, I pray, open his eyes that he may see.” Then the Lord opened the eyes of the young man, and he saw. And behold, the mountain was full of horses and chariots of fire all around Elisha." 2 Kings 6: 14

These weren't physical beings but spiritual but they still had forms in the spiritual realm. Why should we not likewise believe God has a form?
 

robycop3

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that's contradictory ..... unless Moses was using an anthropomorphism to describe God. and please note: God is a God of Order.

:ninja:
Nupe! Moe wrote matter-of-factly. And the hand of God is often mentioned in Scripture.
 

Our Lord's God

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Reformed beliefs that much of Old Testament Prophecy concerning Israel has been fulfilled and that the Church is now the Israel of God has been exposed as heresy and false teaching by James' quote of Amos 9, therefore, 'Preterism' should be considered dead!


Amos and James in Acts 15 prove the 'Day of the Lord' is synonymous with the 'Return of Jesus' (Second Coming)

Amos 9:11
11 "In that day (Day of the Lord) I will raise up the fallen booth of David, And wall up its breaches; I will also raise up its ruins And rebuild it as in the days of old;


Acts 15:13-16
13 After they had stopped speaking, James answered, saying, "Brethren, listen to me.
14 "Simeon has related how God first concerned Himself about taking from among the Gentiles a people for His name. (Times of the Gentiles, Luke 21:24)
15 "With this the words of the Prophets agree, just as it is written,
16 'AFTER these things, (Times of the Gentiles), I will return (Day of the Lord), AND I WILL REBUILD the TABERNACLE of DAVID which has fallen, AND I WILL REBUILD its ruins, AND I WILL RESTORE it,


James' quote of Amos establishes a firm foundation for interpretation

When Jesus returns, He will then restore the Davidic Kingdom to Israel in the Millennium

You botched this.
 
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