Reformist basics.

[ReverendRV]

What if it was you who was found guilty of never hearing about Jesus through no fault of your own?

That would be terrible and God would be wrong for that...

 

[preacher4truth]

That would be terrible and God would be wrong for that...

Wow...just wow!

 

[Terry43]

That's God's domain whether one is saved or not. I believe that there are at least some saved people in each denomination.

How would you respond to your question?

Can one be saved if they have a false god?

 

[Woody50]

Because I read the Bible is the reason why I'm inquiring about the many dissimilarities between the Bible and Reformist theories.

Nope. Because you have presuppositions that conflict with the Bible, and you refuse to admit them, is why.

 

[ReverendRV]

Wow...just wow!

Never hearing about God isn't a Sin. Other things are Sin, like Lying and Stealing; people are Condemned for those things. You are like a wolf laying by the door, you desire to have me. You didn't even wait to see where I was going with that..


@Synergy , @Terry43 Is not having a chance to hear the Gospel a Sin?

 

[Terry43]

That would be terrible and God would be wrong for that...

So how would that person get to heaven?

 

[Terry43]

Never hearing about God is a Sin Other things are Sin, like Lying and Stealing; people are Condemned for those things. You are like a wolf laying by the door, you desire to have me. You didn't even wait to see where I was going with that..


@Synergy , @Terry43 Is not having a chance to hear the Gospel a Sin?

If God desires to save that man, he will hear and respond to the gospel

 

[ReverendRV]

So how would that person get to heaven?

A person who never has a chance to hear the Gospel can't get to Heaven...

 

[Terry43]

Never hearing about God isn't a Sin Other things are Sin, like Lying and Stealing; people are Condemned for those things. You are like a wolf laying by the door, you desire to have me. You didn't even wait to see where I was going with that..


@Synergy , @Terry43 Is not having a chance to hear the Gospel a Sin?

It is not sin that sends men to hell, it is not having a Savior

 

[ReverendRV]

It is not sin that sends men to hell, it is not having a Savior

Agreed. What I Said was meant to start a line of discussion with Synergy; I reckon he would also agree that if you never heard the Gospel, that wouldn't be your Sin but would be the Church's Sin for putting a bushel over it's lamp...

 

[preacher4truth]

Never hearing about God isn't a Sin Other things are Sin, like Lying and Stealing; people are Condemned for those things. You are like a wolf laying by the door, you desire to have me. You didn't even wait to see where I was going with that..

Call me all the names you want rev, as you've done several times.

Whatever "you desire to have me" means is, well, a weird thing for you to think, then say. Fact is I'm aware of your erroneous and compromising views.

A person who never has a chance to hear the Gospel can't get to Heaven...

I knew where you were going... ^^^

 

[ReverendRV]

Call me all the names you want rev, as you've done several times.

Whatever "you desire to have me" means is, well, a weird thing for you to think, then say. Fact is I'm aware of your erroneous and compromising views.

I knew where you were going... ^^^

Ask @Terry43 @Simpletruther if my view is Erroneous and Compromising...

 

[preacher4truth]

It is not sin that sends men to hell, it is not having a Savior

The wages of not having a Savior is death. Hmmm...

Seems unbiblical. Because it is.

 

[preacher4truth]

Ask @Terry43 if my view is Erroneous and Compromising...

No thanks, I asked Scripture instead. It's the authority, the sole authority, not you, and not Terry. I'm sure that irritates you, but now, pretend it doesn't. I'll be waiting.

 

[Synergy]

Nope. Because you have presuppositions that conflict with the Bible, and you refuse to admit them, is why.

Forward any of my "presuppositions that conflict with the Bible", if you can.

 

[Synergy]

Never hearing about God isn't a Sin. Other things are Sin, like Lying and Stealing; people are Condemned for those things. You are like a wolf laying by the door, you desire to have me. You didn't even wait to see where I was going with that..


@Synergy , @Terry43 Is not having a chance to hear the Gospel a Sin?

Not having a chance, through no fault of one's own, to hear the Gospel is not a sin for that person. How can one be liable for that which he has no control over? That would be justice flipped on its head.

 

[ReverendRV]

No thanks, I asked Scripture instead. It's the authority, the sole authority, not you, and not Terry. I'm sure that irritates you, but now, pretend it doesn't. I'll be waiting.

That doesn't irritate me at all...

 

[ReverendRV]

Not having a chance, through no fault of one's own, to hear the Gospel is not a sin. How can one be liable for that which he has no control over? That would be justice flipped on its head.

I agree. People don't go to Hell for not having a chance to hear the Gospel. God would be wrong to send them to Hell for not Hearing the Gospel, but would be right to send them to Hell for Lying...

 

[Synergy]

Agreed. What I Said was meant to start a line of discussion with Synergy; I reckon he would also agree that if you never heard the Gospel, that wouldn't be your Sin but would be the Church's Sin for putting a bushel over it's lamp...

I agree.

 

[ReverendRV]

I agree.

Thanks. That Line of discussion was short and sweet, going exactly how I expected it to go. I just had to drive over an unnecessary speed-bump to get there...